Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 29, 2008 12:07:32 GMT -5
Now time for me to turn my attention to four men named William QUICK who were born around 1788 - 1790.
I wil also add the family of William QUICK m. Joan TRENWITH at St Ives 25th February 1781 (William was a cordwainer.)
I know of no son named William to the above marriage but ...
The four Williams in question are:-
1. - bp. 24th May 1789 Towednack s/o William and Elizabeth (nee HOLLOW)
2. - bp. 15th June 1788 St Ives s/o Richard and Jane (nee BARAGWANATH)
3. - bp. 28th April 1789 Towednack s/o William and Wilmot (nee QUICK)
4. - bp. 22nd November 1790 St Ives s/o James and Ann (nee TONKYN)
One of the above is probably the man who married Margaret POLMEAR at Towednack 20th January 1815 and who was an Innkeeper.
BTW - the numbers above do not immediately reflect those I will use below.
The 1851 Census includes four William QUICKs who are probably those mentioned above.
I will deal with each in turn and include other detail, including other Census data, that I have found for each one.
NUMBER ONE
1851 - Millpool, Paul
William QUICK, head, mar., 62, cordwainer, St Ives
Alice do., wife, mar., 70, Zennor (age could be 74)
Alice was buried at Paul
19th April 1857 Alice QUICK of Mousehole age 75 (ng 85) (whatever that is supposed to mean)
William QUICK m. Alice LANYON, widow 15th December 1831 at Paul
John LANYON, widower m. Alice MANN 5th June 1817 at Paul
Alice was probably bp. at Morvah i 1778 d/o Richard MANN.
In 1861 William was widowed and living on his own at Paul - age 72, former shoe maker, born St Ives.
William QUICK of Mousehole, age 76, buried 19th March 1865 at Paul
NUMBER TWO
1851 - Church Town, Phillack
William QUICK, head, mar., 60, landed proprietor, Towednack
Ann do., wife, mar., 58, Towednack
Catherine do., house keeper, unm., 40, house keeper, Zennor
John do., ag lab, unm., 24, ag lab, Zennor
1861 - Church Town, Phillack
William QUICK, head, mar., 70 (76?), land propretor, Towednck
Ann do., wife, mar., 68, Towednack
Mary Jane do., niece, unm, 23, Zennor
NUMBER THREE
1851 - Halsetown
Peter B QUICK, head, unm., 70, farmer, St Ives
William do., brother, unm, 61, farmer, St Ives
According to Hobson Matthews William died unmarried in 1855.
NUMBER FOUR
1851 - Portbury, Somerset
William QUICK, head, mar., 60, mainer, St Ives
Ann do., wife, mar., 51, St George, Somerset
William jr. do., son, unm., 28, mariner, Portbury, Somerset
Joanna do., daur, unm., 12, Portbury, Somerset
1861 - St George, Somerset
William QUICK, head, mar., 71, beer house keeper, St Ives
Ann do., wife, mar., 61, St George, Somerset
Joanna do., daur, unm., 22, Portbury, Somerset
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NUMBER ONE
Stated birthplace was St Ives so, based on 'known' information he might well have been the son of James and Ann which would make him 4. from the above list.
However James was a mason and although certainly possible it seems strange that a son would become a cordwainer.
And here is why I mentioned the marriage of William to Joan TRENWITH.
This William was certainly a cordwainer and it should be expected that he had a son named William .
We are also entering the period where baptisms at St Ives seem to be a bit of a problem.
However - William and Ann were at Paul which is also where Edward was then living.
Edward is now believed by me to have been the son of James and Ann so this may well be where William belongs.
NUMBER TWO
He is 3. - with him in 1861 is his niece Mary Jane who was then age 23.
Mary Jane was the daughter of Matthew and Nanny (nee MATTHEWS) QUICK
Matthew was the son of William and Wilmot which means that so also was William.
NUMBER THREE
He must be 2. as he was unmarried and farming with his brother Peter Baragwanath QUICK so no more need be said about him.
He was included to eliminate one of the possibilities that might be considered for the other three under discussion here.
NUMBER FOUR
Now here we do have a problem.
Of the possible candidates for whom we have baptisms we are left with 1. and 4. above.
4. 'may be' our cordwainer at Paul.
And the other William was baptised at Towednack - as were all 12 of his siblings.
The interesting thing about NUMBER FOUR is that by 1861 he was a Beer House Keeper.
So - is it possible this as the man who was earlier married to Margaret POLMEAR?? - and who I am now beginning to suspect might well have been the son of William and Elizabeth (nee HOLLOW) and so number 1. from above.
And was the William with wife Margaret at Penzance in 1841 this very same William and Margaret?? - it would appear likely.
I suspect we are missing the baptism for at least one Wiliam QUICK at St Ives.
On that note I will close this post - it is already long enough and I need now to investigate the 1841 Census.
Thoughts anybody??
I wil also add the family of William QUICK m. Joan TRENWITH at St Ives 25th February 1781 (William was a cordwainer.)
I know of no son named William to the above marriage but ...
The four Williams in question are:-
1. - bp. 24th May 1789 Towednack s/o William and Elizabeth (nee HOLLOW)
2. - bp. 15th June 1788 St Ives s/o Richard and Jane (nee BARAGWANATH)
3. - bp. 28th April 1789 Towednack s/o William and Wilmot (nee QUICK)
4. - bp. 22nd November 1790 St Ives s/o James and Ann (nee TONKYN)
One of the above is probably the man who married Margaret POLMEAR at Towednack 20th January 1815 and who was an Innkeeper.
BTW - the numbers above do not immediately reflect those I will use below.
The 1851 Census includes four William QUICKs who are probably those mentioned above.
I will deal with each in turn and include other detail, including other Census data, that I have found for each one.
NUMBER ONE
1851 - Millpool, Paul
William QUICK, head, mar., 62, cordwainer, St Ives
Alice do., wife, mar., 70, Zennor (age could be 74)
Alice was buried at Paul
19th April 1857 Alice QUICK of Mousehole age 75 (ng 85) (whatever that is supposed to mean)
William QUICK m. Alice LANYON, widow 15th December 1831 at Paul
John LANYON, widower m. Alice MANN 5th June 1817 at Paul
Alice was probably bp. at Morvah i 1778 d/o Richard MANN.
In 1861 William was widowed and living on his own at Paul - age 72, former shoe maker, born St Ives.
William QUICK of Mousehole, age 76, buried 19th March 1865 at Paul
NUMBER TWO
1851 - Church Town, Phillack
William QUICK, head, mar., 60, landed proprietor, Towednack
Ann do., wife, mar., 58, Towednack
Catherine do., house keeper, unm., 40, house keeper, Zennor
John do., ag lab, unm., 24, ag lab, Zennor
1861 - Church Town, Phillack
William QUICK, head, mar., 70 (76?), land propretor, Towednck
Ann do., wife, mar., 68, Towednack
Mary Jane do., niece, unm, 23, Zennor
NUMBER THREE
1851 - Halsetown
Peter B QUICK, head, unm., 70, farmer, St Ives
William do., brother, unm, 61, farmer, St Ives
According to Hobson Matthews William died unmarried in 1855.
NUMBER FOUR
1851 - Portbury, Somerset
William QUICK, head, mar., 60, mainer, St Ives
Ann do., wife, mar., 51, St George, Somerset
William jr. do., son, unm., 28, mariner, Portbury, Somerset
Joanna do., daur, unm., 12, Portbury, Somerset
1861 - St George, Somerset
William QUICK, head, mar., 71, beer house keeper, St Ives
Ann do., wife, mar., 61, St George, Somerset
Joanna do., daur, unm., 22, Portbury, Somerset
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NUMBER ONE
Stated birthplace was St Ives so, based on 'known' information he might well have been the son of James and Ann which would make him 4. from the above list.
However James was a mason and although certainly possible it seems strange that a son would become a cordwainer.
And here is why I mentioned the marriage of William to Joan TRENWITH.
This William was certainly a cordwainer and it should be expected that he had a son named William .
We are also entering the period where baptisms at St Ives seem to be a bit of a problem.
However - William and Ann were at Paul which is also where Edward was then living.
Edward is now believed by me to have been the son of James and Ann so this may well be where William belongs.
NUMBER TWO
He is 3. - with him in 1861 is his niece Mary Jane who was then age 23.
Mary Jane was the daughter of Matthew and Nanny (nee MATTHEWS) QUICK
Matthew was the son of William and Wilmot which means that so also was William.
NUMBER THREE
He must be 2. as he was unmarried and farming with his brother Peter Baragwanath QUICK so no more need be said about him.
He was included to eliminate one of the possibilities that might be considered for the other three under discussion here.
NUMBER FOUR
Now here we do have a problem.
Of the possible candidates for whom we have baptisms we are left with 1. and 4. above.
4. 'may be' our cordwainer at Paul.
And the other William was baptised at Towednack - as were all 12 of his siblings.
The interesting thing about NUMBER FOUR is that by 1861 he was a Beer House Keeper.
So - is it possible this as the man who was earlier married to Margaret POLMEAR?? - and who I am now beginning to suspect might well have been the son of William and Elizabeth (nee HOLLOW) and so number 1. from above.
And was the William with wife Margaret at Penzance in 1841 this very same William and Margaret?? - it would appear likely.
I suspect we are missing the baptism for at least one Wiliam QUICK at St Ives.
On that note I will close this post - it is already long enough and I need now to investigate the 1841 Census.
Thoughts anybody??