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Post by poyle on Aug 27, 2018 20:26:56 GMT -5
I greatly appreciate this detailed information. Together with the documents from pollyq, it should help me piece together the case, which raises interesting questions about land contracts and transfer. Will report back on this when I have a better idea what is going on but I think you explanation of a family disagreement is very much on target.
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Post by poyle on Aug 30, 2018 10:18:14 GMT -5
Thomas 'all my Estate in Zennor in the County aforesaid
Trying to sort out the estates, William gives his estates in Trevessa to James and Robert. Trevessa is in Towednack. The estate given to Thomas is in Zennor. I assume this is the estate called Treveale, sold in 1842 to Peter B. Quick and the focus of the dispute between Peter B. and William Quick (bp 1815).
I am assuming the Trevessa estate is the one described in Matthews, A History of the Parishes (1892): OLD HOUSES IN TOWEDNACK. The parish of Towednack also affords some interesting examples of old Cornish domestic architecture, as, for instance, the farmstead of Trevegia, or as it is often called, Trevessa (Trevisa), a primitive village in the parish of Towednack, and one of the old homes of the Stevens clan. The farmstead has probably been inhabited, ever since it was built, by a family named Quick. It is of the usual type of Western farmhouse, with a narrow, high-walled court in front, having a wide doorway, through which, in former times, the stock were driven in for the night. .On the lintel of this gateway is the inscription : ' P. J. Q., 1702 ' (Paul and Jane Quick). The windows of the house have formerly been mullioned and diamond-paned, but all the leaden sashes and most of the mullions have been removed. The house is now divided (between two branches of the family) into two separate dwellings. Here one may see the turf-fire in the huge chimney, and the comfortable chimney-seat, from which, on looking upwards, one espies the sky through the top of the shaft overhead. Here and there are mysterious nooks and cupboards, one of which, near the hearth, holds a supply of dried furze. In the window is a broad seat, from which one has a view of the little garden behind. On the mantel-shelf are a variety of old fashioned ornaments, pewter platter, and the lid of a warmingpan, embellished with the figure of a cock surrounded by flowers. In the corner of the sitting-room stands a tall clock, by Vibert, of Penzance. Outside the courtyard we once spoke to an old man, tenant of the adjoining dwelling, and called his attention to the fact that a lot of large stones had fallen from the outer wall. He replied : ' Yes, sir, yes ; 't 'es fall'n deown, an no waun don' seem to set et up.’ But more will fall this winter, if it's not attended to, won't it ?' ' Yes, more will fall, come the cold, sure !nough.’
Are these reasonable assumptions about the estates?
Does anyone have advice on identifying who is living in these houses today? I would like to visit but would rather contact the residents first.
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Post by londoner on Aug 31, 2018 3:09:58 GMT -5
Have sent you a PM about Treveal and Trevessa Zennor and Towednack parish councils share the same clerk and she might be able to help further, contact details on their websites.
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Post by donne on Sept 1, 2018 7:05:13 GMT -5
Does anyone have advice on identifying who is living in these houses today? I would like to visit but would rather contact the residents first. I've no particular information about these houses, but as regards finding up to date information I would think that it's very likely that they are listed buildings, if they have survived - see britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/england/towednack-cornwall#.W4p8jMBjP4Y or visit the website of the statutory listing authority, Historic England, at historicengland.org.uk. As for finding out who lives there, you can often find information if there has been a planning application made to Cornwall County Council in recent times, as there would have to be if there were any change proposed to a building with a statutory listing. Failing that, I suppose there are always the electoral rolls, where you may find details of the residents.
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Post by poyle on Sept 15, 2019 5:02:29 GMT -5
Follow up: CT suggestion: AS for John Medlin - I think he may have been bending the truth a little with both his age and his parentage when he married Elizabeth Quick in 1840. At that time he said he was age 25 and that his father was John Medlin, labourer. And even when he was buried on 2nd January 1859 his age is recorded as 44 which, as with his age at marriage, indicates he was born about 1815. But after rechecking potential candidates from the baptism records I rather think he is the following:-
Budock Parish Register P22/1/3 Baptisms, Marriages, Burials, 1738-1812 8th November 1812 Budock - John base son of Ann Medlyn, reputed father Nicholas Perry
John Medlin, son of Ann Medlin, born in poor house, was imprisoned at Bodmin/Bridewell in 1825 for running away from his masters service and then in 1838 removed from Lostwithiel to Budock. In both, his birth date is 1812. In 1838, the conditions of his birth are confirmed. Could this same John, two years later, have moved to Penzance, met Elizabeth Quick and then when married, given false information about both his father and the year of his birth? Granted, there seems to be no other John Medlin from Budock who fits the John Medlin who married Elizabeth Quick, but conflicting evidence about father and date of birth makes it difficult to be confident that Elizabeth did marry Ann Medlin's child born out of wedlock.
Any other suggestions.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Sept 15, 2019 11:03:13 GMT -5
My conclusion last year was that John Medlin was the illegitimate son of Ann Medlyn baptized at Budock in 1812. Not unusual for parentage and age to be misrepresented in marriage and other records even for legitimate children.
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