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Post by teesakiwi on Apr 17, 2009 22:20:26 GMT -5
Hello Diane, Iannanta and CT....
You guys are just machines!!! Who wants to watch Coronation Street when you can read all this facsinating QUICK stuff!! ;D Unfortunatley I cannot add any more info myself, however, I have introduced another contact to this forum who is related via John Francis Quick (brother of my Thomas Quick) and I hope she can share her information with you. Her info as regards Catherine Eadey is as follows :
John b.+/-1825 he married firstly Catherine Thomas Eadey b.1823 at Phillack daughter of Andrew Eadey, on 12 july 1845. They were married at the Wesleyan Chapel, Copperhouse in the parish of Phillack. On the cert. his occupation is shoemaker,his father, Sampson, also a shoemaker. Andrew Eadey was a miner.
Hey Iannanta....have you connected us up yet!!
Thanks so much Diane for referring me to this site....it has been an amazing journey and I am just mind boggled with all the research you guys have done. Teresa
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Post by Sarch on Apr 17, 2009 23:53:38 GMT -5
Hi Teresa Isn't genealogy fun - especially when you find a connection? I am sure we will connect here on this board often as well Di
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 18, 2009 5:28:16 GMT -5
Hello Teresa - this input is certainly appreciated. Are there any details of Catherine's baptism available that you are aware of? I have just checked Phillack and the event does not appear there and have also checked St Erth. Looks like she may have been baptised non-conformist. And I am so far unable to find Catherine in 1841 which is causing me a problem. The most likely family I can find for her at the moment might be as a younger daughter of Andrew EDDY and Jane THOMAS who married at Zennor in 1800. I do not know anything yet about them after son William was baptised at Zennor in 1811. Afraid I am at a loss right now! But we do at least have a little more to work with - thankyou. CT
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Post by jane on Apr 18, 2009 16:16:44 GMT -5
hello, I'm Jane, the lady that Teresa has recently been in touch with, re Sampson Quick, born but not recorded ! She put me onto this forum site and I have been very interested in what I have been reading from you all. I have been researching my husbands' family of Quicks decending from John b +/- 1825, who did indeed marry Catherine Thomas Eadey, I have a copy of the marriage certificate to prove it ! I did spend some time a few years back at the Truro record office, unsuccessfully trying to find Sampsons birth, and came to the conclusion that the family must have been non conformists ,and somehow Sampson had missed out on being baptised. The primitive methodists, wesleyan, religion was practiced on a 'circuit' basis. The minister travelled around holding meetings and baptising, marrying and presumably burying as they went. John was married to Catherine in the Wesleyan Chapel at Copperhouse Phillack on the 12 july 1845. His father Sampson, shoemaker, hers, Andrew, a miner. My husbands mother, maided name Quick, was a methodist, so she seemed to follow in their footsteps. I have thought for a long time that Sampson was the son of John and Jane Barncoat. the name Sampson appears in the Quicktree at this time and Janes' father was called Sampson as was one of her brothers. Also on the 1861 census Bennett born in Ireland +/- 1831 , Johns' brother, was living with his wife honour next door to Benedict bap 1791 St Ives, who is possibly our Sampsons brother ! I have also seen the Sheviock regs in which Sampson and Mary Ralphs children Thomas Ralph and Mary Ann were recorded in the birth entries. On thomas Ralphs entry it said Sampson was from Crafthole and he was a mariner, on the entry for Mary Ann Sampson was of Kings Vernace and again he was a mariner.What he was doing in Cawsand/Rame I don't know as I havn't found Johns birth entry yet. He certainly liked to move about. I was interested to read your comment about the revenue theory, have you actually found something about this? I was wondering if he was on the run from something and that's why he moved about and went to Ireland, but I suppose if he was a good methodist I am doing him an injustice. This is the first time I have joined a forum so I hope I havn't gone on to much ! It's just exiting finding others who are also researching the same names as me !
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 18, 2009 17:03:46 GMT -5
Welcome aboard Jane and great to have your input here. As you might have noticed there is at least one of us who can be a little verbose at times. But it often serves a better purpose than jotting brief and sometimes seemingly unconnected notes I think. (Well that's my excuse! ) Now that we have confirmation of the marriage of John and Catherine I would really like to find a baptism for Catherine and identify her parents. As you have probably read the main sticking point for me regarding that marriage was the fact that in at least one Census she stated her birthplace as Zennor. EADEY is not a name found in Zennor (perhaps an entry back in the late 1600's-early 1700's) but it is found in places further East. EDDY on the other hand is very much a Zennor name so perhaps the PR entry is more a pronunciation/clerical difficulty of the time. Andrew is also a name found in the EDDY family so my last comment may have some sense in it. Anyway - if we can find those couple of things I will be happy! I am sure we will be discussing this and other parts of the QUICK family very soon, CT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2009 3:23:02 GMT -5
Hello Jane, CT, Teresa et al
I think that Catherine Thomas Eadey is the same Catherine Eddy baptised at Zennor in 1820 to Andrew and Jane Eddy.
Teresa, seventh cousins I believe would be the relationship between this Ashburtonian and your Florence Myrtle Quick with a couple of generations removed of course. If you want to email me directly then click on my profile and you will see my email address there. Look forward to hearing from you.
Lannanta
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 19, 2009 4:15:10 GMT -5
I keep coming back to the use of the name 'Thomas'. Combine that with the name of her father being Andrew would suggest the possibility she was a later child from the marriage of Andrew EDDY of Zennor and Jane THOMAS at Gulval 26th April 1800. But one problem compounding the problem is that there was also an Andrew EDDY of Zennor who married Jame EDDY at Morvah 16th March 1811. In both cases my current list of children stops with a baptism in 1811. If she were a product of the later marriage then that Andrew 'may' have been the son of Andrew EDDY and Joanna THOMAS who married at Zennor 6th January 1781. This is not going to be an easy one to solve and we may have to hope there is a Will available that might produce some answers. For the time being I must leave poor old Catherine hanging in Limbo. The 1841 Census seems certainly inconclusive with two Catherines of age 20 enumerated on their own - one at Ludgvan and one at St Ives. Those who would have been born between 1821 and 1826 are with parents with no father being Andrew. Searching on variations of the name and surname has also produced no results. REVENUE - I neglected to mention in my previous note that Sampson's recorded occupation on more than one occasion was 'Revenue Service'. This probably means that he was some sort of Tax or Revenue collector or administrator. I think there is another note in this thread suggesting that he would therefore be 'posted away' from his home area due to the nature of that occupation and its certain lack of popularity among the masses. CT
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Post by jane on Apr 20, 2009 12:55:31 GMT -5
Hi everyone, Jane again.
There's nothing I like better than a good problem to get my teeth into ! so spent yesterday searching through the many pieces of paper I have amassed over time, and trawling the various sites looking for the elusive birth entry for Catherine., this is what I came up with...
CT, I think you may be correct in your assumptin that Catherine could be the grandaughter of Andrew EDDY and Joanna Thomas who married 06 jan 1781, Zennor by licence.
Said Andrew and Joanna had a son, called Andrew, b. 31 october 1781 at Zennor, who married on the 13 april 1825 at Zennor Margaret Champen Veal[e]. I managed to trace at least two children of this marriage. Hannah THOMAS Eddy bap 02 july 1826 at Zennor... Matthew Eddy bap 16 august 1835 at Zennor .
As there is 10 years between these two it is highly probable more children were born in between. Note the use of THOMAS as a middle name for Hannah !
Margaret was buried 02 april 1840 at Tregarthen, Zennor, she was the daughter of william Veal and Margaret Champion who married 24 august 1794 at Uny Lelant. Margaret was bap. on the 20 march 1803 at Uny Leylant. I picked up Andrew on the 1851 census, aged 67, a widower, miner,born Zennor, living with his son matthew, 15 also a miner, born Zennor.They lived at Boscaswell Row, St. Just in Penwith.
I then went back to 1841 census, Zennor. Andrew Eddy 60, miner tin mine Hannah, 15 Matthew, 5
Do you think we might possibly be on the right lines with this family ? It certainly explains the use of THOMAS as a middle name for Catherine. It did cross my mind that Hannah and Catherine might be one and the same ? Anyway I am going to do another trawl to see if I can find anymore children from Andrew and margaret's marriage.
Jane.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 21, 2009 2:33:49 GMT -5
Hello Jane - from past experience we are going to have to get our hands reall dirty on this one so it is good to have you digging around. But there are a couple of problems immediately. Firstly Catherine, based on the couple of items we have where her age is given, could not be the daughter of Andrew and Margaret. They married in 1825 yet Catherine had to have been born somehwere about 1821-1824. Another problem I have just found:- Andrew EDDY m. Margaret Champen VEALE 30th April 1825 Zennor Andrew EDDY m. Margaret MARTENS 11th February 1826 Towednack Now, I agree that Andrew of Zennor was the son of Andrew and Joanna (Thomas) and Hannah is therefore named for Andrew's mother. Hmmmm - may be getting a little more interesting. In 1825 Andrew would have been 44 or 45 so there is a fair possibility that he was previously married. This would mean that Catherine could certainly be his daughter. The most likely 'first' marriage I can find for Andrew would be the marriage to Jane EDDY at Morvah 16th March 1811. So far we have found only one Catherine who might be the daughter of Andrew and the wife of John QUICK. She was baptised 16th January 1820 at Zennor d/o Andrew and Jane. There was a Jane EDDY, age 37, of Trembath buried at Morvah 4th December 1820. A lot more work will need to be done to prove or disprove any of this - however it is a reasonable starting point to suggest that this Jane was perhaps the first wife of Andrew EDDY. Looking at the Zennor and Morvah baptisms there seems to be a gap from the baptism of Catherine in 1820 to the next child of an Andrew and Jane EDDY at Zennor in 1825. This last would be the marriage of Andrew EDDY and Jane EDDY 22nd May 1824 at Zennor. I will leave that all now as food for thought. But I have just one more problem with this scenario. I am not completely happy that the Margaret EDDY buried at Zennor in 1840 was actually Margaret Champen nee VEALE. When buried this Margaret was 45 - so unless there is a transcription error or she looked a good deal older than she really was then this is unlikely to be the same Margaret. Margaret Champen VEALE was, as you say, baptised in 1803. I have had a look at the family and it is highly unlikely she was actually born much before the baptism given the consistent flow of children from the marriage of William VEAL and Margaret CHAMPION in 1794. Your thoughts please. CT
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 21, 2009 2:47:12 GMT -5
A further note on Margaret.
The Margaret buried at Zennor in 1840 'could be' the daughter of Nathaniel and Margaret.
She was baptised at Zennor 14th september 1793.
It may be that we need to look at Lelant for the burial of Margaret Champen EDDY given that was her 'home' Parish.
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Post by jane on Apr 21, 2009 14:53:16 GMT -5
Hi Everyone, Thanks for comments CT, sorry if I got carried away and thankfully someone re-researched to point out a few impossibles ! I have just looked at the 1841 census for Zennor and found the family of Andrew and Jane, minus a Catherine of course ! Nearly everyone in Zennor seems to be an Eddy ! Andrew was a 'Racker' any idea what that is ? It was interesting that a lot of the Eddy families had children with the same names, and unusual for the time surely, ie [H]annibal. ref.HO 107/144/17 I did find a Catherine on the 1841 census, born about the same time as the Catherine we are looking for, living with a William Pearse and family in Ludgvan, she was their servant.
Thats all the research I have time for at the moment, as I am off to Sweden for a week in about 10 hours and yet have to get myself sorted. Catch up with you all after that. Maybe you will have solved the riddle by then !!!
regards, Jane
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 21, 2009 16:32:03 GMT -5
Hi Jane - the Hannibal will more than likely come from the Thomas side of the family where it was a fairly common name.
I hope to do a bit more work on the Andrew Eddys over the next few days now that it seems I am getting a bit of a run on and also now that I have a little more to work with.
There are several in the 1841 Census and I think I might be now in a position to sort them all out and work out exactly where they belong.
Enjoy your trip o Sweden and we can continue this discussion on your return when, hopefully, I will have some more answers.
CT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2009 0:01:03 GMT -5
I have just found the following note with respect to Martha nee Caddy:
Quick, Martha Ruskin Street, Sydenham, Christchurch, New Zealand (where the sun don't set) Wife of Thomas Quick Aged 34 years Born in Crowlas, Ludgvan Daughter of John and Hannah Cadby (sic) Buried at the Addington Cemetery on 9th October 1888.
Lannanta
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Post by teesakiwi on May 3, 2009 21:07:26 GMT -5
Hello again and thank you once again for added information re Martha Caddy. I will check out the Addington Cemetry next time I am in the area.!!
Yes I do believe the family were 'non-conformists". Thomas Quick was a Methodist minister here in NZ at some point.
Bye for now Teresa
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 4, 2009 2:34:47 GMT -5
Hi Teresa - will look forward to your updates.
Seems a few of the emigrant Quicks are starting to be found now and I will create a new thread to deal with some of these.
CT
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