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Loveday
May 7, 2008 16:39:21 GMT -5
Post by cornishmaid on May 7, 2008 16:39:21 GMT -5
Allen, you got there first I would say the marriage between William Quick and Alice Stevens on 31 December 1832 is spot on, especially when you find an earlier child baptised to them in St Ives, ie: William Quick, son of William & Alice, baptised 3 May 1833. William Snr's occupation is listed as Mariner. Will have a look for the other baptisms tomorrow.
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Loveday
May 7, 2008 16:55:15 GMT -5
Post by Cornish Terrier on May 7, 2008 16:55:15 GMT -5
Well done the both of you. And darned Quick work too I might add. 'Tis a pity the record did not tell us how old William was but let's hope he was at least 20 and I might have a chance of finding him amongst the William Quicks I have floating around unmarried. We should also be able to identify Alice Stevens now also. Working on Census records she would have been born about 1815-1817 so I might ask for that to be checked also - Please. That then will be another 'thorn' removed and I can move on to the next problem. Ian
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Loveday
May 7, 2008 17:12:40 GMT -5
Post by cornishmaid on May 7, 2008 17:12:40 GMT -5
Alice Stevens, dau of Job & Alice, baptised 2 February 1814. Job's occupation was Fisherman. Alice's siblings were: William, Honor, Job & John. (Any help?) The next Alice Stevens to be baptised was to Matthew & Jane on 15 November 1822. A bit late
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Loveday
May 7, 2008 17:25:58 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 7, 2008 17:25:58 GMT -5
Maybe the son of William & Elizabeth, baptised in 1808 at St Ives?? Just a thought.
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Loveday
May 7, 2008 17:27:29 GMT -5
Post by cornishmaid on May 7, 2008 17:27:29 GMT -5
I would concur with that one Night all
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Loveday
May 7, 2008 18:10:26 GMT -5
Post by Cornish Terrier on May 7, 2008 18:10:26 GMT -5
Once again - Well Done Team! Was about to throw in another two bobs worth myself and it looks like we are agreed on the identity of William. The only one in my database to fit the 'bill' is that same fella baptised in 1808 as son of William Quick, mariner, and Elizabeth (nee Curnow). And the data re Alice would make here the daughter of Job Stevens, mariner, m. Alice Perkyns 29th May 1804 at St Ives. All starting to fit neatly. One further item to pass on. I have just found a baptism for one of the daughters of William and Alice. St Ives Primitive Methodist Circuit 02 Sep 1842 Mary daughter of William & Allice Quick (née Stevens), Fisherman of St. Ives b.02 Jul 1842, St. Ives See - I am not leaving all the work to you two. Good Night all.
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Loveday
May 7, 2008 18:18:58 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 7, 2008 18:18:58 GMT -5
Ian
This William, husband of Elizabeth CURNOw - do you know where he fits into the tribe?
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 8, 2008 1:23:04 GMT -5
Believe I do Allen. William was buried at St Ives 24th May 1829 age 51 which gives us an idea of when he was born. He used the name John Jenkyn Quick twice in his family (and BTW he had a brother named George) so there is a further clue. William Quick bp. 18th November 1778 at St Ives (IGI) s/o Richard Quick and Honour (nee Jenkyn) is the answer. Richard and Honour were married 8th April 1770 at St Ives and Richard was buried at St Ives 16th November 1825 age 83. Honour was buried at St Ives 14th February 1815 age 71 and, although I have not yet checked, I believe she would have been the daughter of a John Jenkyn. Hmmm - perhaps not correct. IGI shows only one Honor Jenkyn anywhere near the right time and she was daughter of Charles and Honour. Note that there are two entries for this baptism - one for 1743 and one for 1744. (Guess you know what that means!!) Honour JENKIN bp. 18th March 1743 at St Ives d/o Charles and Honour Charles JENKYN m. Honour PAYNTER 16th May 1743 at St Ives Looks like Charles was bp. 1722 s/o Thomas and Jane or 1724 s/o Charles and Amy. Honor is probably Honor PAINTER bp. 3rd August 1718 d/o John and Honor at St Ives Richard QUICK is almost certainly:- Richard QUICK bp. 2nd August 1741 at Ludgvan s/o James and Alice. James QUICK of Ludgvan m. Alice BAWDEN 9th February 1729 at St Hilary. James bp. 21st November 1703 at Towednack s/o Henry and Jane See how that works and I will look at it again after work tonight. Ian
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Loveday
May 8, 2008 10:05:31 GMT -5
Post by cornishmaid on May 8, 2008 10:05:31 GMT -5
Well, can't find any more baptisms for William Quick and Alice Stevens' children. Checked Penzance chapels as well just in case but nothing there either.
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Loveday
May 8, 2008 12:04:19 GMT -5
Post by Cornish Terrier on May 8, 2008 12:04:19 GMT -5
Hmmm - most odd considering all were supposedly born in St Ives.
Thanks for trying anyway and I will work along without that data.
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Loveday
May 13, 2008 21:18:42 GMT -5
Post by Cornish Terrier on May 13, 2008 21:18:42 GMT -5
A little update on the Loveday Leacher scenario. I have just now updated my database to reflect this as the second marriage of John Quick, cordwainer, who had previously been married to Jane Barnecoat. Loveday was baptised 17th June 1759 at Lelant d/o Thomas Leacher and Ann (nee Johns) who had married at Phillack in 1752. Loveday was buried at St Ives 4th January 1836 age 75. Now this marriage occurred 20th November 1796 and it brings us another interesting little problem. Note that John Quick's first wife was JANE. Remember:- Jane Quick bur. 11th November 1795 St Ives Jane Quick bur. 26th September 1798 St Ives The problem is that we now have two Jane's vying for number 1 spot on the burial parade. The second burial cannot be the first wife of John just as she could not be the first wife (Jane Michell) of Thomas Quick of an earlier discussion purely and simply because both men had remarried as widowers prior to this burial. So the question is now just which Jane (w/o John or w/o Thomas) was buried in 1795. My leaning is towards her having been the wife of John given he had young children at the time and his second marriage was 12 months after the burial. And as far as we know Thomas Quick had no children by Jane Michell. Am now trying to work from here and see if I find any possible tie in between this John and the other two Quick cordwainers, thomas and William whose births appear likely to have been at least contemporary with John's. Will post immediately should anything surface.
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May 13, 2008 22:01:06 GMT -5
Post by Cornish Terrier on May 13, 2008 22:01:06 GMT -5
The Cordwainers. Possibly a minor point at the moment but I have probably now identified Joan Williams who was married at St Ives 11th June 1798 to the widowed Thomas Quick, cordwainer. In the 1851 Census she stated she was born at St Ives and that she was 86 years old. I did a search on St Ives using a start date of 1765 +/- 5 years and came up with one solitary result. Joan Williams bp. 12th October 1766 St Ives d/o Zechariah and Ann. This would be:- Zachary Williams, CORDWAINER, m. Ann Hawking 10th November 1761 at St Ives Another interesting point about Thomas and Joan is that it was their daughter Philippa Quick who married Jakeh Glasson s/o John Glasson and Elizabeth (nee Trewhella). In the 1841 Census Joan Quick appears to be a widow and is living on independant means. With her are Eliza Quick age 12 and Catherine Glasson age 3. More and more interesting and very possibly another lookup for our dear friend and hardworking Cornishmaid. I only know of five children for Thomas and Joan:- Elisa bp. 9th June 1799 Philippa 19th July 1801 - Require burial if possible Philippa 22nd May 1803 Anne 15th April 1805 Thomas 25th January 1808 All baptised at St Ives. Provided these are actually all the children of Thomas and Joan then Thomas has to be the father of the twelve-year-old Eliza. This being the case then his marriage would probably have occurred somewhere around 1828 or 1829. Hmmm - cannot find Thomas in 1841 or 1851. One more point to be made is that Thomas named successive daughters 'Philippa' so is this a possible clue to the identity of Thomas. Time for a break and then have a think about this.
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May 14, 2008 3:14:28 GMT -5
Post by cornishmaid on May 14, 2008 3:14:28 GMT -5
Well not much to report back on as yet, but have a couple of things for you: The Elisa you have baptised to Thomas and Joan on 9 June 1799, I have baptised to Thomas and Jane And I managed to find a burial for you of the first Philippa who was born on 19 July 1801. She was buried at St Ives on 15 June 1802 I'm not sure where the name Philippa comes from as yet, and time is rather against me today .
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May 18, 2008 3:21:38 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 18, 2008 3:21:38 GMT -5
During our discussions we have incuded one or more Israel Quicks. One in particular was the Israel who married Sally (Sarah) Richards in St Ives in 1810. Their first child James was baptised in 1811 in St Ives and it appears that their last child was Edwin baptised in 1824.
In May 1825 there was a burial for a 38 year old Israel, indicating if accurate, a birth around 1787/1788.
Was he the son of Israel & Catherine - both Quicks in their own right?
Lannanta
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May 18, 2008 12:16:12 GMT -5
Post by Cornish Terrier on May 18, 2008 12:16:12 GMT -5
24th May 1825 at Towednack - Israel Quick age 38 Yes, he was son of Israel and Catherine. His father, Israel, was buried at Towednack 1st February 1832 age 77 but I have not yet found the burial for Catherine. I have also not found a burial for Sally (Richards) but it is possible she remarried. There is another problem here also - the Hoblyn Transcript of Towednack baptisms records Israel s/o Israel and Catherine bp. 9th May 1787. IGI records Israel s/o Israel and Catherine bp. 2nd January 1788 at St Ives. I have found no burial for the first one and I am suspecting that the two are one and the same child with a baptism recorded in both Parishes, something that appears to have been not totally uncommon. I can also find no trace of son Edwin in the 1841 Census - thought I would look for him as the youngest child and see if his mother might have been with him. Edwin reappears in 1848 when is married at St Ives but I can find (so far) no further trace of him. BUT I have had one win tonight! Decided to try and find the maiden name of the first wife of Vivian Stevens Quick (b. 1802 s/o Benedict and Jane). All I knew was that she was 'Joyce Jenkyn .....' and that she was married sometime before 1832. Simply entered the name 'Joyce' into the IGI search page along with a search date of 1810 +/- 5 and the Batch number for St Ives and Bingo! - JOYCE JENKYN SYDAL bp. 14th August 1811. On that note I might think about calling it a night.
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