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Post by Cornish Terrier on Mar 16, 2008 11:22:01 GMT -5
Well done yet again - and I think you may earn yourself another 'star' once Zenobia is back with us. This is good stuff. I cannot do much more tonight as I am far too tired. But, online status remaining stable, I will add the latest couple of messages to my printout and try and work from there. You are doing great work here. Ian
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Post by cornishmaid on Mar 16, 2008 13:51:37 GMT -5
Thanks guys for the hard work. Am thinking that the two Eddys with Susannah in 1841 are her siblings? Up to my eyes here at the moment with children, but hopefully be able to look through your replies again in a couple of hours. Crida, you said you found Susannah Sneig at Madron with the Chirgwin family? Have just had a look and both transcriptions I could find say Susannah Lacey. Did you manage to have a look at the original image? I had a look at Phillimores for Madron, but can't find any more Sniggs who may have been William's parents. In fact there is a distinct shortage of Sniggs in Cornwall. I wonder where they came from And I also wonder why they have to keep changing the darn spelling!!
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Post by cornishmaid on Mar 16, 2008 14:22:12 GMT -5
This looks like Susan Woolcock's death: Jan/Feb/March quarter 1892 - Susannah Woolcock, age 88, Penzance district, Vol: 5c, Page: 209 This age at death would definitely fit in with the birth year of the Susannah Eddy that married William Snigg (var.).
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Mar 16, 2008 16:11:12 GMT -5
Some more good clues coming in here 'm'dear'. But a 'silly question' regarding the spelling. Why do I currently know of at least 21 different spellings of my surname (Trewhella) as found in the records. And what about Nicholas, Nichols, Nicholls, Nickles, Nickless etc. Sorry to seem a little facetious. Probably just needed an excuse to use that word 'facetious'! ;D Have printed out all the earlier stuff and will try to have a look at things after work tonight - along with the latest messages. (Might print them out as well to make things easier.) Get those 'rugrats' under control, relax and get back to work.
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Post by cornishmaid on Mar 16, 2008 16:23:56 GMT -5
The Quick family Have found the following with Quicks and Woolcocks together.... In the 1851, Folio 416, Page 6, living at the Wharf: John Quick Head M 67 Retired Fisherman St Ives Cornwall Betsey Quick Wife M 67 St Ives Cornwall Claria Polmear Grndau U 19 House Maid St Ives Cornwall Mary A. Woolcock Niece U 19 Visitor (Crossed Out) St Ives Cornwall Daniel Edwards Grnson U 18 Fisherman St Ives Cornwall Henry D. Edwards Grnson U 15 Fisherman,St Ives Cornwall Am not sure this is helpful, but the large glass of red wine I'm imbibing certainly is ;D.
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Post by cornishmaid on Mar 16, 2008 18:25:03 GMT -5
Think this might be William Snigg's death: Jan/Feb/March quarter 1839, Penzance district I then found this on the Madron burial transcriptions: William ?? , of Penzance, aged 45, buried 24 March 1839. No other Sniggs in the burials that I could find. So Susannah Eddy, b. 1804 c, married William Snigg b. 1794 c., on 10 April 1832 at Madron. They have a daughter Mary Ann Snigg, b. 1833 c. Then William Snigg dies in 1839 age 45. Susannah Snigg is with daughter Mary Ann Snigg at St Ives on 1841 census. Mary Ann Snigg marries Joseph Williams Tanner on 7 April 1853 at St Ives, her father listed as William Snigg. So far so good. I am leaving Susannah's shenanigans until tomorrow after some sleep. Thank you Crida for all your help so far. ;D I wonder where the Sniggs came from
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Post by cornishmaid on Mar 17, 2008 4:51:59 GMT -5
Thanks to all the help I've received, I think I've finally worked it out It all fits together very nicely if Susannah was married previous to her marriage to William Snigg. In the 1841 census she has two people with her by the name of Eddy. I thought they may have been her siblings as she was called Susannah Eddy when she married William Snigg. However, the ages were niggling me as they indicated these Eddys were Susanna's children rather than her siblings. Also, one was called Susan Eddy and two living siblings were not usually given the same name (I know there are indeed exceptions to this). Now, on Susan Eddy's marriage to Peter Woolcock Jnr, her father is named as Matthew Eddy. It is my theory that Susannah married Matthew Eddy before she married William Snigg. I cannot find their marriage as yet, but on the igi it appears they had 3 children, Susan Eddy, Eliza Eddy and William Eddy. I think Susannah's marriage to Peter Woolcock was her third marriage. This would explain all the problems we have come across subsequently What do you think?
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Post by crida on Mar 17, 2008 7:36:15 GMT -5
What a very confusing family! I have looked at the original images for Susannah in 1841 and 1851. In 1841 it is not entirely clear whether the 2 Eddys are in the same household as there is a diagonal line after Mary Ann. However in 1841 I have noticed that these lines were not always used correctly to denote separate households eg servants were shown in the same way. In 1851 it looks like Susanah Sneig to me. She is a widow 58 Charwoman b St Ives. However the writing is not good! And I cannot find Peter Woolcock senior at all. I cannot find Susannah Woolcock after the 1861 census and wonder if this is her death
Deaths Mar 1871 WOOLCOCK Susanna 78 Penzance 5c 215
There is a burial at Barnoon of Susannah Woolcock Widow 78 on 6 Jan 1871 which fits. Although the age does not seem quite right and where is she in 1871?
Are you able to have a look at the PR for Madron to establish Susannah's status when she married Willim Sneage? Can't see anything on line.
Crida
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Mar 17, 2008 9:34:37 GMT -5
I was going to try and look into this a little more tonight but do not have the concentration to do so. I will make the attempt tomorrow after I finish work. (Given online status remains.) But:- If Susannah was buried in January 1871 you are definitely not likely to find her in the Census of that year as it would have been enumerated no earlier than April. I will try and check more on this tonight but keep going with your searching as you may well come up with something more to help 'track down the culprit'. Ian
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Post by crida on Mar 17, 2008 9:44:25 GMT -5
Of course she wouldn't be in the 1871 census Ian Think these Sneags are causing serious brain damage Crida
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Mar 17, 2008 10:12:14 GMT -5
That's ok Crida I think we have determined where she was in 1871 - practising for World War II - She was in 'the Underground'. (Possibly had Frence Connections ) ;D Seriously though, I will try and take another look at this after work tonight. Just cannot concentrate enough to deal with it right now. Ian
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Post by cornishmaid on Mar 18, 2008 5:22:48 GMT -5
Right, here it is. I apologise for any typos as my poor brain will not deal with checking through my typing after the trauma these Sniggs have put it through! Susannah ? married Mathew Eddy in 1815. They had the following children, their residence is listed as Copperhouse, Hayle, Cornwall, and Mathew Eddy’s occupation is Mariner : Eliza Eddy, bapt. 4 October 1818 Susan Eddy, bapt. 4 October 1818 William Eddy, bapt. 28 January 1821 Mathew Eddy dies, and Susannah Eddy remarries William Snigg, Confectioner, on 10 April 1832 at Madron. They have the following child: Mary Ann Snigg, b.1833. William Snigg dies in March 1839, and is buried at Madron on 24 March 1838, age 45. This makes his birth year circa 1794. In the 1841 census we find Susannah Snigg, Confectioner, age 45 living in St Ives, with: Mary Snigg, age 7, born in County Susan Eddy, age 25, born in County William Eddy, age 20, born in county On 29 August 1841 Susan Eddy (Susannah Snigg’s daughter from her first marriage) marries Peter Woolcock, Shoemaker. Susan's father is listed as Mathew Eddy, Mariner. In the 1851 census Mary Ann Sneg, now age 18 is with her half sister Susan and her husband Peter Woolcock. She is listed as sister in law to Peter, which indeed she is. On 7 April 1853 Mary Ann Sneg marries Joseph Williams Tanner; and in 1854 Susannah Snigg (her mother) marries Peter Woolcock (Snr). In the 1861 census we find Peter Woolcock, father, married and aged 72, in the house of Peter Woolcock Jnr and Susan (Eddy). Susannah Woolcock his wife, age 70, is in the house of daughter Mary Ann. Susannah is listed as mother in law to Mary Ann's husband, which indeed she is. Peter Woolcock Snr, is buried on 1 December 1863, age 73? Susannah Woolcock, widow, is buried on 6 January 1871 age 78. I think I may order the marriage certificate of Peter Woolcock Snr and Susannah Sneage in case there are any more clues on it. But that will have to wait till payday I'm afraid So... what does everyone think? Also, I did follow up what happened to Eliza Eddy, daughter of Susannah (according to my calculations). Eliza married Thomas Collins on 13 June 1845 (father listed again as Mathew Eddy). She must have died between 1845 and 1851 as Thomas Collins remarried on 9 March 1851 to Isabella James. Well, my poor old brain is completely addled now, so am going off to sit in a darkened room for an hour or so
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Post by crida on Mar 18, 2008 5:47:01 GMT -5
Hello Cornishmaid Yes, I agree with that summary and that the marriage certificate for Susan Sneage to Peter Woolcock senior would be very useful. Pity we cannot find the marriage in the St Ives PRs as that would save you £7. Sneage/Snigg seems to be a very rare name. I wonder if William came from abroad, particularly as he was a confectioner? It might be worth trying to look at his marriage record in case there are any clues - although it will probably just have the basic infor for a pre 1837 marriage. Crida Added. Now we need to find out Susannah's maiden name - I wonder if this will be on her 3rd marriage cert? Should be able to deduce it from her father's name.
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Post by cornishmaid on Mar 18, 2008 6:35:14 GMT -5
Hi again I have just emailed the OPC for Madron to see if she can help with the marriage of Susannah to William Snigg. The Madron website is full of information but unfortunately does not include marriages in 1832. I'm very intrigued by Mr Snigg, and you are right, it is a most unusual name for Cornwall. Makes a change from the Curnows and the Quicks eh I did find a marriage of a Matthew Eddy to a Susannah Hart in St Ives on 16 November 1812. I discounted this at first because I thought Susanna was born in 1803ish and she would have been too young; but with her age now established as circa 1793 then this marriage would be in the right timescale. I can't find any baptisms for children of this couple in the St Ives area, which would again make sense as the 3 children I did find with the Susannah we've been discussing were baptised at Phillack. I had a look at the baptisms of a Susannah Hart and a Matthew Eddy in St Ives in the right era, but their parents names do not tie in with any subsequent names of Susannah or Matthew's children. Matthew Eddy, son of Matthew & Elizabeth, bapt. 15 June 1788. Susannah Hart, dau of Anthony & Grace, bapt. 29 December 1793. Perhaps the grandparents names might help . Am definitely going to order that marriage certificate of Susannah to Peter Woolcock!! ;D
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Post by crida on Mar 18, 2008 6:43:57 GMT -5
Hello again Do hope the OPC can help - keep us posted. Crida
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