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Post by londoner on Apr 3, 2008 9:09:10 GMT -5
Anthony Hart (b abt 1760 according to Family search submitted entry) married Grace Pollard 23rd June 1785 St Ives. There is a w after her name, does this mean she was a widow? There is a marriage of Grace Thomas to Richard Pollard 13 May 1774 which could be her. :)Need to check if Richard died before the marriage of Anthony & Grace. The 1760 Anthony was bp Crowan 20th July to John & Hannah (nee Harvey) Hart (IGI) who married 28 May 1748 There was an earlier Anthony bp 31 Jul 1748 at Camborne to Anthony of Crowan so a closer look at Crowan might be helpful to confirm these, if you dont find him earlier in St Ives. The name Anthony seems to have carried on being used right throught the 19thC : Anthony Hart m Jane Jewell 20 Nov 1819 at Crowan Elizabeth Sarah(?) d/o Anthony & Jane bp St Erth 27 Nov 1826 Anthony s/o Anthony & Jane bp 11 Nov 1827 St Erth Anthony Hart m Jane Thomas 9 Aug 1840 had son Anthony bp St Ives Prim Meth. 29.9.1842 I suspect these are all connected and a John Hart of St Ives also named a son Anthony - lots for you to get your teeth into and I noticed a couple of Noall/Ninnes connections to Harts whilst searching. Have fun
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Post by cornishmaid on Apr 3, 2008 13:48:07 GMT -5
Yes I would say Grace was a widow when she married Anthony Hart. I think my family problem just got more complicated.... Did the Susannah Hart that married 3 times have a brother called Anthony Hart who married Jane Thomas? This Anthony Hart is my 4 x grt grandfather on my dad's maternal side. So, if Susannah is his sister. . . this would make her my 4 x grt grandmother through my mum's maternal side, as well as my 4 x grt auntie through my dad's side? As if my poor head wasn't hurting enough already Will print everything off and will have a look at it all after a spell laid down in a dark room
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Post by londoner on Apr 3, 2008 14:19:25 GMT -5
Like I thought everyone in St Ives is everyone else's "cousin"
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 10, 2008 17:38:00 GMT -5
On top of everything else I have been trying to do tonight - this is aggravating my headache too. Will attempt to have a real serious look at this after some sleep.
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Post by cornishmaid on Apr 18, 2008 13:32:33 GMT -5
Just remembered you asked about Mary Ann Batten's baptism CT, and said you couldn't find it. Although she was noted as being born in Newlyn, she was in fact born and baptised in St Ives. I found her baptism and have her birth certificate, details as follows: 16 January 1889 Mary Ann Snage?, daughter of Robert and Susan Batten, fisherman of Virgin Street, b 18 December 1888. Birth Certificate: No. 82; Twentieth September 1888, Virgin Street, St Ives; Mary Ann Snage, Girl, Father: Robert George Batten; Mother: Susan Batten formerly Tanner; Informant: R G Batten, Father, Virgin Street, St Ives; Registered: Twelfth January 1889; Registrar: John Bray Anthony. Slight discrepancy in birth date, but am sure it is the same person. Maybe that's why we couldn't find a transcription in St Ives of the marriage of her parents... is a bit close to the birth date of the first child, so was probably carried out elsewhere Should I order the marriage certificate of Robert George Batten and Susan Tanner just to double check details?
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Post by cornishmaid on May 27, 2008 5:44:07 GMT -5
Update - Have just received the marriage certificate of Robert George Batten and Susan Tanner. They married on 2 July 1888 at Penzance Registry Office; Robert was 27, Susan was 23, and both lived in Virgin Street, St Ives at the time of their marriage. I can now confirm that Robert Batten's father was indeed William Mitchell Batten, so I can now work back with more certainty Thank you all for your help.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 27, 2008 8:55:41 GMT -5
Have updated my database to reflect the marriage so will have a bit more to work with a little later. Also checked on Anthony Hart. I already had one of such name in my database. Anthony Hart m. Phillippa Jenkyn Berriman at St Ives 28th August 1892. Anthony was son of John who was son of Anthony who was son of .... (Well, haven't got that far yet. ) But I am guessing it is heading straight back into a link with the Anthony Hart(s) previously mentioned. Ian
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Post by cornishmaid on May 27, 2008 10:59:12 GMT -5
I haven't tied that marriage of yet another Anthony Hart in yet, but I'm sure it's linked somewhere... Now, I have been trying to find the baptism of my Robert George Batten without much success. However, I have just found this query in my notes, which may solve the problem (or may not ). I found the following baptism in Paul Baptism Register (online): 7 October 1860 Robert George, c/o William (Mariner) & Elizabeth Ann BUTT of Street an Nowan Should this be Batten instead of Butt? Was Batten shortened to Batt. and it was transcribed as Butt? In short, is this my man? Any ideas anyone? Looks like I may have to either order a birth certificate or view the original records?
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 28, 2008 0:57:27 GMT -5
I think it probable you have found 'your man' so it would be pointless spending money on the Certificate. View the original PR when you get the chance as that should cost you nothing. I have checked the 1861 Census and everything I have looked at tends to confirm that the entry you have found is the correct one for your Robert. The nearest Robert Batt in 1861 is at Devizes and I can find no Robert Butt anywhere apart from outside Cornwall. Your Robert George Batten appears with his family and every other detail seems to fit the picture. Hope that helps. Ian
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Post by londoner on Aug 25, 2011 8:51:06 GMT -5
Just revisiting this thread as the Ineg?Sneg rang bells when I came across her again
Robert George Cotton Batten was the Son of ( as pointed out earlier) William Mitchell Batten and Elizabeth Ann Cotton.
Elizabeth's (bapt Paul 7 Oct 1832) parents Robert Cotton and Mary Dawson (parents George Dawson and Elizabeth Batten) married Paul 7 Dec 1828
Mary Dawson's sister Margaret or Peggy, married Henry Bryant Murt (15 Feb 1836 Madron) and caused me some confusion for a while as she appeared to be alive after she was dead and buried (Barnoon 20 Sep 1857). However it turned out that widowed sister Mary had Married the widowed Henry in 1858 and was living with his children in 1861.
It was Peggy who was the unfortunate mother of the triplets mentioned in another post.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 28, 2011 3:58:02 GMT -5
I somehow missed this post for a couple of days. Thanks for the update Londoner - this sort of information is very useful and will hopefully save some others a bit of a headache!
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