I will start with 'OOPS' because one of my previous postings was slightly in error.
Where I mentioned the 1851 Census for Ladydowns, Towednack it was actually - 1841 - so I hope I have not confused too many.
And now it might be easier that I have printed out a copy of this latest posting to work from rather than trying to scroll up and down all the time.
From the start with William being a mason in 1814.
He is recorded as a 'labourer' when he was married in 1813 but that is really of little concern.
Also of little concern is the spelling of the name - Berriman/Berryman - as it changed quite often during the records in almost all the families of this name I have dealt with.
Mary - I show the baptism date (from the Towednack PR) as 7th October.
Now, working down the list of baptisms provided I can say the following:-
Wilmot, (1814), Mary (1815), Christopher (1817), Ann (1819), Jane (1821, William (1823), John (1826), Andrew (1829) and Thomas (1832) all belong to the family of William Berryman and Wilmot (nee EDWARDS).
ROSETTA - mentioned afterwards (bp. 1831) is now obviously the daughter of Wilmot (1814).
This is obvious as, in this case, she was last mentioned in the family but was older than Thomas.
The next problem here is to locate Wilmot, her mother, in this Census.
On the other hand we need to consider the following Marriage entry from Lelant:-
14 Aug 1856 by banns
Benjamin Tonkin Sarten full age miner Uny Lelant (father: Robert Sarten, laborer)
Rosetta Berriman full age Uny Lelant (father: William Berriman, miner)
Witnesses: Thomas Richards, Marianne Leacher
Is this the same Rosetta Berriman or was there another of the same name.
The first question that needs to be answered here is - what happened to Wilmot Berriman of 1814.
If Wilmot married it would be expected that she 'may' have married the father of her daughter.
However Wilmot was not 'at home' in 1841 so it might be presumed she had died.
It is possible that Rosetta was 'orphaned' at an early age and was brought up by her grandparents 'as their own' and I have seen similar things before.
Let us have this one investigated a little further by you sleuths before we go much further with it.
And now for the other family of William Berriman and Wilmot (nee MICHELL).
The rest of the list can be confirmed by the 1841 Census as, I think, previously posted with the exception of Christian Sampson Berriman whom I suspect was deceased prior to the Census.
These all belong to the family of William Berryman and Wilmot (nee MICHELL).
This William is now pretty much proved to be the son of James Berryman and Christian (nee SAMPSON) so things become somewhat obvious.
Now for the UREN part of proceedings.
'Goldarnit' - I may have made another mistake.
I think I should have noted 'Grandson of old 'SAMUEL' Uren.
Halsetown Marriages
16 Feb 1861 by Banns
Samuel Uren 26 bachelor Labourer of Halse Town (Father: Samuel Uren, Shoemaker)
Elizabeth Nankervis 21 spinster of Halse Town (Father: Henry Nankervis, Miner)
Witnesses: Frank Treweeke, Catherine Quick
What I was trying to get at was that William may have been more likely to have been a son of the above marriage.
The above Samuel I would suspect was a son of 'old' Samuel's first marriage given the 'old feller' was a widower when he married Catherine Berriman..
(Crikey - hope I have made sense of what I am trying to say.
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As far as the 1881 Census entry is concerned - we must be in two minds.
William 'may' have been the brother - but he may also have simply been 'named as brother' and may have been a nephew.
(If you check through the board you will find some discussion on this.)
The Obituary might be interesting
so, yes, I would like a transcript - but only at your leisure! (and that is an order - 'at your leisure')
St Agnes/Perranzabuloe have been part of the last few days on this Berryman stuff.
But no, that family is as yet to be connected and the discussions you have initiated have proved that one 'possible' connection in that area was incorrect.
The name Cordelia is certainly not unknown down West but I just, for now, figure out how that became the name of the first child of James and Clarinda.
Will leave it at that, do another quick check for queries and then think about food and sleep again. ;D