ILLOGAN/REDRUTH/CAMBORNE TREWHELLAS/TREWELLAS

[Cornish Terrier]

The John and Grace Brickwall has been with me for well over 30 years now so I am sure I can survive a little more waiting! I will look forward to your further thoughts tomorrow.

CT

[zibetha]

Hi cousins,

This has me reviewing my notes and my charts re: the whole Trewehela in Europe scenario. I thought I was missing two children for William Trewhela and Elizabeth Tremellen. This John would fill in one spot, and I have added him here.

I have: James,_____. John, William, Richard, Jane, William, Betsy, James and Jenifer. I think I am still missing a child for this branch.

Zib

[Cornish Terrier]

The first child was JANE (not James - baptized 18th January 1755 Kenwyn and buried 16th March 1761 Kenwyn 'daughter of William Trewhela'. The second child (the one you are missing) was daughter MARY baptized 8th November 1756 at Kenwyn 'daughter of William Trewheeler'. I believe her to be the Mary who married Richard Soper at St Clement 19th July 1779 in which case she died in 1840 and was buried at Truro 17th November 1840 age 86.

CT

[zibetha]

I thank you! I had James (husband of Catherine Brown) listed first as I had no year of birth for him but followed a thread here re: Catherine's children. But he must be the next to last child I listed above, and I was missing the first Jane and Mary.

Zib

[Cornish Terrier]

Yep, James was the penultimate child to this marriage baptized at Kenwyn 23rd July 1769. Last child was Jennifer (1772-1772) and her mother died about 7 weeks after her burial. Her father went on to a further two marriages and another nine children!

CT

[zibetha]

Nine? Then I have more work to do. What I find interesting is the naming of multiple daughters Jane/Jennifer with three different wives. Any thoughts as to where that originates?

Zib

[Cornish Terrier]

The most likely answer is that they were named for Elizabeth's mother. Elizabeth Tremellen/Tremelling was baptized at St Erth 28th December 1729 daughter of James Tremelling and Jane Richards.

I don't yet know the parents of the 2nd and 3rd wives but perhaps once William got started with the name he just got carried away!!

CT

[zibetha]

OK-- Back to where I left off on the descendants of William Trewhela-wheeler. This gives me 10 with first wife,then I have Jane 1775 with his 2nd, Elizabeth James, and 3 - Warne/Worne, Jennifer, and now Christiana with 3rd wife, Catherine Truscott. So I guess I am short five?

Help is obviously needed!

Zib

[Cornish Terrier]

Rightio! - here are the children of William Trewhela grouped together under each of three wives:-

by Elizabeth Tremellin

1. Jane daughter of William Trewheela bp. 18th January 1755 Kenwyn and buried 16th March 1761 Kenwyn

2. Mary daughter of William Trewheeler bp. 8th November 1756 Kenwyn married Richard Soper at St Clement 19th July 1779 (10 children and Mary Soper buried Truro St Mary 17th November 1840)

3. John son of William Trewhela bp. 3rd September 1758 Kenwyn and buried 13th May 1828 Mylor married first Susanna Harvey at Budock 1786 married second Jane Trevena widow 1811 St Gluvias married third Jane Bond widow 1814 Falmouth (1815 Lent Assizes sentenced to 9 months imprisonment for Bigamy!)

4. William son of William Trewheler bp. 13th July 1760 Kenwyn and buried 10th August 1760 Kenwyn

5. Richard son of William Trewheeler bp. 18th October 1761 Kenwyn married Martha Snow at St Gluvia 24th July 1784 - descendants to Russia and New Zealand

6. Jane daughter of William Trewheeler bp. 10th October 1763 Kenwyn and buried 3rd September 1767 Kenwyn

7. William son of William Trewheller bp. privately 1st October 1765 Kenwyn - no further information

8. Betsy daughter of William Trewheeler bp. 4th July 1767 Kenwyn married Joseph Williams at Kenwyn 16th December 1792

9. James son of William Trewheeler bp. 23rd July 1769 Kenwyn and married Catherine Brown at Kenwyn 10th July 1794 - 3 children then James buried 25th November 1804 at Kenwyn. (Catherine then had illegitimate son Simon Tregunna Trewhela 1806 at Kenwyn

10. Jennifer daughter of William Trewheler bp. 2nd March 1772 Kenwyn and buried 3rd March 1772 Kenwyn


by Elizabeth James

1. Jane daughter of William and Elizabeth Trewheler bp. 7th March 1775 Kenwyn and buried 29th October 1779 Kenwyn

2. Ann daughter of William and Elizabeth Trewhelar bp. 27th October 1776 Kenwyn and buried 20th March 1778 at Kenwyn

3. Charles son of William and Elizabeth Trewhelar bp. privately 10th August 1778 Kenwyn and buried 27th December 1840 Kenwyn 'of Truro Poor House age 62'

4. Ann daughter of William and Elizabeth Trewhalar bp. 6th August 1780 Kenwyn and buried 16th September 1780 Kenwyn


by Catherine Truscott

1. Warne son of William and Cathrine Trewhelar bp. 21st May 1782 Kenwyn - married someone named Sarah - 1 known child Richard Thomas Trewheeler bp. Chatham, Kent 13th May 1804 - no further information

2. Jennifer daughter of Wm and Catharine Trewheler bp. 30th May 1784 Kenwyn married first Peter Tregunna Kenwyn 5th February 1803 and married second Samuel Truran Kenwyn 15th June 1810

3. Christian daughter of William and Catherine Trewhelar bp. 8th April 1787 Kenwyn married Peter Hancock Kenwyn 16th August 1813 - Christian buried 3rd May 1838 at St Day. (Christian had an illegitimate son Henry Trewhela bp. 11th June 1809 at Kenwyn. Henry married Jane Robins at St Day 21st December 1837 but no known children - he was buried at Bere Ferrars, Devon 2nd August 1854)

4. Francis son of William and Catharine Trewhelar bp. 26th December 1789 Kenwyn and buried 27th May 1798 Kenwyn

5. Henry Williams son of William Trewhelar bp. 8th October 1792 Kenwyn married Mary James 11th August 1833 at St Gluvias - no children. Henry Trewhelar of St Day age 65 buried 31st August 1856 at St Day

That should help fill in the gaps.

CT

[zibetha]

It certainly does, and I thank you! I know some of the information I had was from the Trewhellas in Europe thread, too.

Zib

[Cornish Terrier]

Yes, I'm afraid some of this stuff got scattered somewhat in the early days! And far too difficult to try and move things around now.

That lot took quite some time to sort out and although there are still some unanswered questions and loose ends I am fairly comfortable with the conclusions.

CT

[zibetha]

We Cornish are so interrelated that even tags wouldn't help much. I try to hook onto prior threads when possible.

Zib

[Cornish Terrier]

I much prefer that people use existing threads so long as their query/comment relates to the particular thread. In the case of queries or comments that do not relate to an existing thread the preference is that any new thread be created in the 'appropriate' place.
If there is a connection to an existing surname forum then that should be used but otherwise the Parish forum is preferred as there is a board for each of the Penwith Parishes. Failing either of those then the Queries section is a good place to start and conversations can be moved from their to an appropriate section once it is determined.

CT