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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2011 5:56:51 GMT -5
I've found a marriage of a Nowell Michell to a Blanch
14.12.1650 in Paul if this helps at all.
Lamorna
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 1, 2011 7:57:48 GMT -5
I am not sure that we want to go off on this tangent just yet. And I would be looking a little closer to Gwinear initially although it does not hurt to make note of the possibles as they are found. But in this case the wife was named as Amie and I should think they were married prior to about 1595.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2011 16:52:25 GMT -5
I was just looking for something else and came across this
snippet so thought I would post it just in case someone does
want to go off on another tangent.
You never know how useful it might be for someone!!
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 2, 2011 4:01:10 GMT -5
That's okay - just trying to prevent a 'wild goose chase'. It is also straying a bit from the original question so I also wanted to try and keep things in perspective. All new information is good.
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Post by josiev on Jan 6, 2011 8:46:49 GMT -5
Hiya That's great Lamorna, and I don't mind as long as it's made clear no definite connection has been made. I did state that I didn't think there was a connection to my Mitchell fam (Yet), but the name similarities are interesting. And maybe it might help someone who stumbles across this. Maybe they can make a connection? ? Back to my line. I am now trying to find what happened to John Mitchell's siblings and have found out one or two things: 1. William Chellew bpt 1816.: Not sure possible emigration to the US or Australia 2. Edward bpt 1818 : Poss emigration US 3. Samuel bpt 1822: Not sure Poss marriage to Jennifer Polgrean 1839? 4. Mary Ann bpt 1826 poss burial as Mary Hannah age 10 1835 5. Eliza bpt 1828 married William HOSKING. Son William John. They emigrated to Australia 1853 ship Parsee. Still trying to find what happened to them there. 6. Elizabeth bpt 1832 : dressmaker 1851 census 7. James Henry bpt 1835: married Elizabeth Jane SARAH 8. Stephen bpt 1837: Married Caroline UREN. They emigrated to Australia. Caroline died 1894. Stephen married Jane Richardson Cutter 1897. More work ;D Cheers Jo
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 7, 2011 5:00:09 GMT -5
Jo - can you tell me where in Australia I need to be looking please? If it is Victoria (in particular) then I should be able to find them and SA and NSW I will have a chance. And as a reminder to ME I have father Edward in my database as #120960 - Edward Michell m. Mary Chelew. CT
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Post by josiev on Jan 7, 2011 8:56:30 GMT -5
Hi CT. Hope everyone had a fantastic chrissy and New Years? William, Eliza and William John Hosking emigrated to NSW. We have found a NSW assisted passenger list that matches them perfectly. They arrived in Queensland first then New South Wales on the 11th Jan 1853 aboard The Parsee. The immigration doc is for the 17th of Jan 1853. William: parents William and Mary: Blacksmith: has a brother and sister living in Sydney. Eliza: Parents Edward and Mary. (and Little William John) All from Cornwall We found 2 births and deaths in Ballarat for 2 Hosking children Elizabeth Jane and Eliza; parents William and Eliza but I don't think it's our couple. We keep finding William H and Eliza Warren?? So NSW is probably the best place to look. Stephen and Caroline Mitchell poss came to Victoria aboard the Mermaid; Caroline not listed by name just Mrs Mitchell. My query is how long did it take to sail from UK to Aust? They married in Sept 1858 Cornwall and arrived in Vic 16 Dec 1858. They are buried in Ballarat, Vic. Ha btw on the Aus death index Stephen's mother's maiden name is spelt : Schewele
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 7, 2011 9:07:54 GMT -5
Schewele?? - Too late to surprise me! Around the 1850s it probably took around 3 months for the voyage from England to Australia. I will try to take a proper look through your message tomorrow night and then see what I can do from there. It could be a long day tomorrow so it may actually take a little longer for me to do that but I will certainly try. CT
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Post by josiev on Jan 11, 2011 8:22:06 GMT -5
Thanks CT when you can. Not my Samuel Michell. Found a marriage reg that lists different father. I wish I had better access to US records Cheers Jo
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 11, 2011 10:05:41 GMT -5
Oh dear! - afraid I allowed this one to slip back a little! Just keep at me Jo until I can give this the time it deserves. In the meantime how about you let me know what particular US information you are after and I can try and find it for you. CT
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Post by josiev on Jan 21, 2011 7:00:08 GMT -5
Hello everybody. Sorry it's been a little while but we're a bit wet here in Australia at the mo. Could you please confirm if this is William Chelew Michell for me?
MARRIAGES - DETAILS OF RECORD ID 420011: Parish or Registration District: Madron Date: 07-Jun 1842 GROOM: William MITCHELL Groom's age: 25 Groom's condition: BACH Groom's rank/profession: MINER Groom's residence: Gulval Father: EDWARD MITCHELL Father's rank/profession: MINER BRIDE: JANE ARLS Bride's age: 23 Bride's condition: SPINST Bride's rank/profession: Bride's residence: PENZANCE Father: JOHN ARLS Father's rank/profession: BARBER Banns(B) or Licence(L): LICENCE Groom Signed(S) or Marked(M): S Bride Signed(S) or Marked(M): M Witness 1: MARGARET ARLS Witness 2: J READ Register notes: Transcriber Notes: Transcriber: Diane Donohue
I have also found references to a William Chelew Michell in the US civil war (union)1860's but no solid information. I am also looking at a William Mitchell listed in the Australian Death index parents Edward and Mary died 1878 Richmond NSW. I wish they would list age and place of birth!! Cheers Jo
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 21, 2011 8:14:20 GMT -5
Jo - all I can say is that it 'might be' William Chelew Michell. I cannot find him in 1851 and nor can I find a William and Jane to match that marriage. All I have been able to find is the following baptism in the Ludgvan PRs but it is inconclusive:- William Henry MICHELL son of William (miner) and Jane of Penzance baptised 22nd January 1843 Ludgvan The fact that they were 'of Penzance' offers some sort of link to the marriage but I would not want to swear on it at the moment. I can also find no other William son of Edward born around the right time but we have to remember that there were a lot more non-conformist baptisms happening around that time. The other think I looked for was that Civil War reference but have had no luck on that one either. If you can give me a source for the information you found or at least an idea where you found it I can try again. CT
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Post by josiev on Jan 21, 2011 9:28:45 GMT -5
I also found another child
BAPTISMS - DETAILS OF RECORD ID 636025: Parish: Gulval Date: 15-May 1842 Name: Benjamin MITCHELL Sex: Father: William Mother: Jane Residence: Penzance Father's rank/profession: Labourer Register notes: Transcriber Notes: Transcriber: Gwen Attridge
I haven't cross referenced census details yet. I will double check passenger lists to Aus and U.S. and see if I come across a match for a William, Jane and children Michell. The civil war ref was through ancestry.com : William Chelew Michell Kentucky Civil War Union Volunteers
Jo
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 21, 2011 9:45:01 GMT -5
Hi Jo - I saw that baptism for Benjamin also but dismissed it when I noticed that he was baptised a month before the marriage you are looking at. And there was an earlier marriage for a William Mitchell to a Jane Hodge 'someone'. (forgot her maiden name now!) I don't know about that Civil War reference. I have tried William C Michell and William Chelew Michell and every result comes up as 'William C Michell' so there is nothing so far that could verify that it is him. I did try the US Census records earlier but found nothing that might be a match. CT
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Post by josiev on Jan 23, 2011 6:13:25 GMT -5
Thank you CT
I did find Jane Michell in the 1851 census living with her mother Hannah Herls and siblings Margaret and John Herls; along with a daughter Eliza Jane Michell aged 7 (B abt 1844) No mention of husband William or son William Henry. Still don't know if it's my William or not but maybe this info will help someone?
Cheers Jo
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