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Post by brumbird on Dec 18, 2009 13:00:35 GMT -5
Have just been looking at Ancestry & have found that a Paul Quick b abt 1807 arrived in Melbourne on the "Carrier Dove" on 03.11.1857 also a Mary Quick b abt 1840 they sailed ftom Liverpool no sign of other children. Do you think this is your man
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Dec 18, 2009 20:26:53 GMT -5
It could be. I know that son Edward died in South Australia but have not really pursued the remainder of the family. Will take a look later today once other commitments are done with. CT
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Post by Sarch on Dec 19, 2009 4:19:52 GMT -5
Hi CT
Edward Quick son of Paul Q and Mary Pearce
I have him going to Australia in 1862 on the "Boanerges" he died 30 Sep 1912 Rose Park, South Australia
Boanerges Passengers Jul 1862 Anna Quick aged 19 Edward Quick aged 25 Edward Quick aged 3 Elizabeth Quick aged 25 Mary A Quick aged 5 William Quick aged 1
On Free BMD Edward Quick married Elizabeth Emala Mann in December Quarter of 1855 registered in Penzance. I have 3 children Mary Ann Pearce Quick b Christow, Devon Edward Quick b 1859 St Ives William Williams Quick b 1861 St Ives
Children Information from 1861 Census
Piece: RG9/1589 Place: Penzance -Cornwall Enumeration District: 4 Civil Parish: St. Ives Ecclesiastical Parish: Halsetown Folio: 50 Page: 23 Schedule: 130 Address: Stennack -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks QUICK Edward Head M M 24 Copper Miner Warwickshire - Yardley QUICK Elizabeth E Wife M F 24 Milliner Devon - Ashburton QUICK Mary A P Dau - F 4 Scholar Devon - Christow QUICK Edward Son - M 2 - Cornwall - St Ives QUICK William W Son - M 4m - Cornwall - St Ives COCK Mary A Boardr U F 27 Stay Maker Cornwall - Zennor
Edwards father Paul QUICK aged 53 arrived Melbourne, Victoria in Nov 1857 on the "Carrier Dove" with his daughter Mary QUICK aged 17 In 1859 Mary QUICK married George PEARCE (no idea what relationship)
Regards
Sarch
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Dec 19, 2009 11:29:40 GMT -5
Her name was actually Elizabeth Emily Mann BONAMY.
A daughter - Elizabeth Emily Mann Quick - was born at Ballarat in 1863 and then three further children born in South Australia. (Arundel Pryor Quick born 1865, Albert Morgan Quick born 1874 and Archibald Victor Quick born and died 1877)
I saw the marriage of Mary Quick and George Pearce in the Pioneers Index today but I have found no indication to confirm she was Paul's daughter.
CT
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Post by Sarch on Dec 19, 2009 12:39:57 GMT -5
Hi CT Thanks for the info on Elizabeth Emily Mann Bonamy - The Scanned Page has Elizabeth Emala Mann as well as the transcript. The Anna Quick aged 19 arriving on the "Boanerges" - is this Edward's sister? I do not have a birth year for Anna Quick daughter of Paul Quick and Mary Pearce. Regards Sarch
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2009 20:08:59 GMT -5
Hello I have the following note in my database concerning Paul, the wife of Mary: When you are looking at the Ancestry search engine for Mary the baby she is not mentioned, and to see her you need to view the original. I have six children to Paul and Mary: Charity Jane Pryor Williams Quick, b. 1827 William Paul Arundel Quick, b. 1830 Edward Quick, b. 1837 Mary Quick, b. 1840 Anna Quick, b. 1843; and William Williams Quick, 1832 to 1840 - see following note: This last son reflects why Edward may well have named one of his sons William Williams Quick. I agree that this is the abovementioned Paul and his daughter Mary. CT, where does this surname come from? Lannanta
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Dec 20, 2009 0:23:22 GMT -5
G'day Lannanta - the information regarding the BONAMY surname came from a lady I was in contact with many years ago regarding this small section of the Quick family.
I was supplied the full name - Elizabeth Emily Mann Bonamy - along with a birthdate of 22nd July 1836 at Ashburton, Devon.
Only yesterday I looked at this again and decided to check IGI to see if there was any detail.
From LDS Batch Number C050201 we have the following:-
Elizabeth Mann BONAMY bp. 7th August 1836 Ashburton, Devon, England Parents - James and Ann
From LDS Batch Number M050201:-
James BONEMY married Ann MANN 11th October 1835 Ashburton, Devon, England
The information from Mrs Green gave an actual birth date which suggests possibly a family Bible as usually the LDS include a Birth Date if it is recorded in the Baptism record.
CT
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Dec 20, 2009 1:13:35 GMT -5
It seems Lannanta's question has been designed to give me another headache! ;D Thought I would try and find out a little more about the Bonamy family and it looked relatively easy given there are only 95 records in IGI for Devon. - WRONG! I have so far been unable to find the family in 1841 or in 1851. I may possible have found James but, if so, then he was married twice. There was a James Bonamy at Ashburton in 1841 with daughters Charlotte, Susan and Harriet. But there is no sign of Ann and I cannot find Elizabeth anywhere. In 1851 I can find only Charlotte. But I have found Ann in the 1861 Census. Ann BONAMY was living with her unmarried sister Mary MANN age 74 at Ashburton. Ann is recorded as age 63 and still married and both she and Mary were born at Widecombe In The Moor, Devon I may have just found Elizabeth in 1851. Mary MAN was living at Ashburton age 66 and with her is niece Elizabeth MAN age 14 and born Ashburton - I think this is almost certainly Elizabeth BONAMY. But I still cannot find James or Ann. AHA - I have just found Ann and Elizabeth in 1841! They were living at North Street, Ashburton with Ann's sister Mary MANN. The surname was indexed as BONNYING but a look at the original shows that it is actually BONNYMY. Mary MANN, 50, In County Ann BONNYMY, 40, In County Eliz do., 4, In County It would appear then that Elizabeth was at least partly brought up by her aunt Mary Mann which might help explain the fact that her name is registered as MANN when she married Edward QUICK. CT
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Dec 20, 2009 1:33:23 GMT -5
For those who may be interested here are a couple of details on the MANN family.
Ann d/o Peter and Elizabeth MANN bp. 22nd July 1798 Widecombe In The Moor, Devon
Mary d/o Peter and Elizabeth MANN bp. 17th October 1786 Widecombe In The Moor, Devon
Peter MANN married Elizabeth HANNAFORD 3rd January 1786 Widecombe In The Moor, Devon
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Dec 20, 2009 1:52:46 GMT -5
Lannanta - did this death occur at St Ives??
CT
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Dec 20, 2009 1:58:26 GMT -5
Firstly - I think this may have been the same voyage as Phillis Trewhella, one of my relatives. I also think that Anna was Edward's sister - OR was it HALF-sister?? If Anna was born in 1843 (or even 1842) then it is highly unlikely she could be a full sister to Edward. Because Edward's mother was buried 3rd October 1841!! Unless Paul Quick had a fling with someone after Mary died then the only alternative is that Anna was actually born in 1841 and her age has been misrepresented on more than one occasion. CT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2009 2:29:30 GMT -5
CT
Yes it did, although I received the death entry quite some time ago and when I was quite ill. I have not seen this certificate since the day I recorded its details into my database.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2009 3:08:24 GMT -5
CT
Interesting scenario, especially considering where everybody is in 1841. Paul with children Edward and Mary at Worcester, plus Paul's sister in law Charity Pearce. Wife Mary and daughter Charity are at Hayle with what looks like Mary's brother - William Pearce. Seems unusual to me.
A few months later Mary dies at Bristol where Paul is now stationed.
In 1851 Paul is at St Ives with his two children Edward and Mary. Other daughter Charity does not appear to be about. Sister in law Charity P. Pearce back in Hayle with her family. If Anna, aged 8, daughter of an Excise Man, a visitor of John Anthony Oats at Lelant, is the daughter of Paul, then she is not the daughter of Mary nee Pearce, and it is probable that she was not born a Quick - unless you can find her?
Lannanta
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Dec 20, 2009 3:38:23 GMT -5
The plot seems to thicken somewhat! I have now located Anna Quick in the 1851 Census. Anna Quick age 8, excise man's daughter born St Ives, was visiting the family of John Oats Anthony at Lelant. John Oats Anthony married Elizabeth PEARCE at Phillack 18th November 1815 Elizabeth PEARCE was the eldest daughter of William and Charity Pearce. This suggests a birth around 1842 or 1843 and certainly raises the question of just who her mother was. Elizabeth Anthony was obviously the sister-in-law of Paul Quick but Mary Quick had died in 1841. To quote from the West Briton dated 8th October 1841:- "At Bristol, on the 3rd instant, after a long and painful illness, which she bore with Christian fortitude, Mary, wife of mr. Paul QUICK, excise officer, at that place." There can be no doubt that this refers to Mary nee Pearce. It is possible the birth of Anna was not registered or that the entry is missing however FreeBMD has no record of an Ann, Anne or Anna Quick born in the Penzance R.D. between 1840 and 1844. (The closest match is Hannah Berriman Quick) The question remains - who was the mother of Paul Quick's daughter Anna? CT
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Dec 20, 2009 4:11:34 GMT -5
Thanks Lannanta - database updated. People might think this is another 'Quick' takeover but as it relates back to the Pearce family I think we can keep the conversation here. I have not been able to locate Anna anywhere in the 1861 Census either as a Quick or under any other name. And I am having no luck finding a birth record that could possible be hers under any name. The last thing I have checked is the Victorian and South Australian BDM records and, once again, I can find no trace of Anna after her arrival in Victoria in 1862 with Edward and his family. BTW - I can confirm that this was the same voyage on which Phillis Trewhella came to Victoria. Phillis was a younger sister of my 2xgt-grandfather Benjamin Trewhella. At this point we seem to be stumped with Anna Quick so if anyone can come up with any futher information at all I will be extremely interested. CT
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