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[sterthandstives]

Hello,
Well, not sure whether to choose reply to , use poll , or new thread as a means of introduction.
I do know I need to use the Surname Interest to record my families.
Bet I put those in the wrong place too!
So forgive my clumsiness and errors, its merely due to ignorance. Something I'm sure that will not last too long given the level of kindness , assistance and guidance that appears on this new found site.
Now, what was I going to do on this page?
Oh yes, My dad, Charlie MILLS was a St Ives Boy but the ancestral home is St Erth on his mother's side. I am English but do come from the west country however. Now reside in the lovely county of Sussex ( East I hasten to add- more like Cornwall than West Sussex)
Have been researching my families for many years but have a had a bit of a break and now its time to return to the quest.
Decided to incorporate my Cornish villages in my user name. Well, though it a good idea at the time
Am really hoping for some specialised help for my several brickwalls.
Have experienced the compounded errors bit- been through the lazy phase with lack of personal scrutinising of information gained thereby getting to the formerly mentioned situation, wasted money paying out for certificates being chosen unwisely in haste and been through the being 'cock-sure' phase. Am now grown up enough to admit that showing a bit of humility is a good thing. And boy, do I ever appreciate the people who spent hours and hours in local offices transcribing endless lists and records and still continue so generously of their time to this day,for the benefit of later generations such as mine. Worth their weight in gold.
Soap box finished!
Now, I need to find the Surname interest bit.

[Cornish Terrier]

Welcome to Penwith Genealogy 'sterthandstives'.

You have been around the 'mills' (pun intended ) from the looks of things.

We will do our best to help find the answers for you so fire away with your first queries.

CT

[annie]

Hello
I am a "newbie" having found your site via The Cornwall OPC my main interest is with the name Carbines who appear to be mainly in the St Erth, Phillack & Lelant areas. Are there any other Carbines out there?

Annie

[Cornish Terrier]

Hello Annie and welcome to Penwith Genealogy.

I have a few Carbines in my database I believe - although I don't know that any are actually connected to my family.

But that does not mean you won't find help!

We try to help with all queries here whether or not the names connect.

I presume you would be aware that there are a number of variations of the name that you will find throughout the Parish Registers and other documents?

Let us know some specific queries and we will see where the information leads.

CT

[sterthandstives]

Thank you for your warm welcome Cornish Terrier.
Not sure whether to pick topic and just post something or click on a particular posting and choose reply. Bound to get muddled for a while. and more than likely confuse readers so I apologise in advance.Could really do with an idiots guide actually.
Still, best lessons learned when mistakes are made. Noone learned anything from being right all the time did they?
Shall try the St Erth topic first.

[Cornish Terrier]

HI Sterthandstives - experimenting is always good but I am sure you will find your way around.

It would be totally unwieldy to have a separate forum for each name of interest but we do have a few set up.

If your name of interest is not in the Surnames list but was prolific (or originated) in a particular Parish then the Parish forum, if it exists, would probably be the best place for your posting. (In this case it would seem St Erth is the one.)

If neither Surname nor Parish has its own forum then there are other options available - Queries for example.

But feel your way around and you will soon find the most appropriate area for a particularly query.

Most important thing is to HAVE FUN while you are researching!

It can be a very hard slog but we try to put a little enjoyment into it here.

CT

[martine]

hi my name is martine and have just found out that my grandfather jo oats was from cornwall, we always belived he was from wales he moved to the northeast as a child with his father and sister, carrie, we no little else at this stage, his father was a school teacher in or around lands end, my grandad has now passed over, and my sister has more information which she will send me soon i'm just so excited to think he came from cornwall as i am planning to move there soon, he never told us any of this, his father ended up working at the ship yard as did my grandad and then he had a horse and was a rag and bone man, he always kept animals. is any one else looking for oats onthesite how can i check

[Cornish Terrier]

Hello Martine and welcome to the site.

You have come to the right place and I think you will find a few people here who will be very happy to help.

Rob Oats will probably be the best one to get you started but we all like to help where we can.

All we need you to do is supply some details to work with and any other information you have that might help.

Once we have something to work with we can start helping you search for your ancestors and other family links.

I like to see people enjoy themselves here and have a bit of fun searching.

And I like to at least hope that members (new and old) will stick around and remain active.

You just never know when you might have something that will help someone else with their research.

If you have not already started then take a look through the various threads and feel free to add comments or ask questions if you see anything of interest.

Start posting and we will start trying to help find some answers for you.

CT

[lucaduca]

Hi All
Thank you for your kind welcome.
My stumbling block is John Stephens my g'g'g' grandfather, his son another John Stephens
born 1819 in Crowan and in 1840 married Ann Colenso in Breage, John senior had already died, the only reference to John senior I have found was on the LDS site as being the father
of John born 1819. I hope someone out there knows the answer or can show me the way, many thanks in advance.I also have Trewhella in my tree ,Katheren Trewhella married my ancestor Thomas Culensoe on 17/09/1638 in Madron.
Regards Lucaduca

[davidkingmartin]

Hi,Lucaduca,
John Stephens 1819 and wife Ann Colenso : see 1861 and 1851 UK Census. If you cannot access this, let us know!
John 1819 MAY have a sibling, Alice 1816, and father John,1790,Ludgvan??, mother Ann 1794....but I have not done a proper "search" on them.

David.

[donne]

Dec 6, 2009 16:50:34 GMT -5 lucaduca said:

My stumbling block is John Stephens my g'g'g' grandfather, his son another John Stephens
born 1819 in Crowan and in 1840 married Ann Colenso in Breage, John senior had already died, the only reference to John senior I have found was on the LDS site as being the father
of John born 1819. I hope someone out there knows the answer or can show me the way

Hi Lucaduca, it seems to me that John Stephens, father of John Stephens could be the John Stephens bap 15 May 1785 Cury, to parents John and English Stephens (IGI). I see from my CFHS Crowan marriages CD that there was a marriage between John STEVENS and English SAMPSON in Crowan 4 Feb 1783. Searching for baptisms on the IGI to parents John STEVENS and English (very unusual forename) comes up with the above 1785 baptism for John and also Margaret 27 May 1787 and Mary 2 Nov 1788, again in Cury. You have the Crowan connection with the marriage of his parents. What do you think?

[lucaduca]

Hello Donne
many thanks for your swift reply, but I think davidkingmartin
has found my family ,thank you sincerely for your time and efforts. Lucaduca

[Cornish Terrier]

Hi Lucaduca - I'm a little late on this one however I am looking into the problem for you.

I can confirm the LDS details regarding the father of your John Stephens.

The Transcript of Breage Parish Registers shows that he was John Stephens, miner, deceased at the time of the marriage in 1840.

Unfortunately I only have access to Crowan baptisms via IGI at the moment so only the basic name and date is available for John and his sister Alice.

But I am about to explore other avenues to see what further information I can find for you.

CT

[lucaduca]

:)Dew
Thank you very much for your offer it is greatly appreciated,
my ten year search for my Stephens family has left me empty
handed I could not believe there was nothing out there for me to find, most frustrating for me but I am all smiles today.
hoping to hear from you Dew , kind regards lucaduca

[Cornish Terrier]

A rather confusing little problem we have here.

So far I have been unable to find the marriage for John and Ann Stephens. (i.e. parents of John)

It was not at Breage, Sithney, Germoe, Crowan, St Erth, St Hilary, Perranuthnoe or Ludgvan.

I have not found it in the IGI or on the OPC site either which indicates the event has not been transcribed and that it probably occurred after 1812 to which date IGI seems generally to have covered.

Being unable to find a widowed Ann Stephens in the 1841 or 1851 Census suggests one of three things:-

1. Ann had also died prior to 1841
2. Ann had remarried after John Stephens died
3. I am not looking hard enough!

There is a marriage at Crowan 15th July 1819 between Thomas Rodda and Ann Stephens.

In the 1841 Census Ann was recorded as age 45 - so she was born sometime between 1791 and 1796.

A look at the original PR would be required here but it is possible that this Ann was a widow and possibly the widow of John Stephens.

But we also still need to find the burial for John.

This will remain 'work in progress' for the time being as I don't have access to some of the required records.

However - I think I have found the marriage of John's sister Aice.

Alice Stephens of Godolphin Bridge, Crowan (daughter of John Stephens, miner) married John Gundry at Sithney 5th May 1838.

This marriage was witnessed by John Stephens who was possibly her brother. (If it was her father then the above reference to Thomas Rodda is out the window!)

Finally - there are some oddities involved with the family of John Stephens and Ann Colenso!

I have found several baptisms for children as follows - all at Breage:-

Lavinia bp. 29th March 1842 of Godolphin Bridge
Elizabeth bp. 15th August 1842 of Godolphin Bridge
Mary bp. 18th October 1846 of Godolphin
Jane bp. 7th November 1853 of Godolphin Bridge
Eliza bp. 7th November 1853 of Godolphin Bridge

Children as per the 1841 Census at Godolphin Moor, Breage:-

Elizabeth age 1

Children as per the 1851 Census at Godolphin:-

Elizabeth age 11
Ann age 9
Rosina age 8
Mary age 6
Jane age 3
Eliza age 2 months

Children as per the 1861 Census at Crowan:-

Elizabeth age 21
Anne age 19
Rosina age 18
Mary age 16
Jane age 13
Eliza age 12
William age 6

Notice that there is no Lavinia in the Census yet her baptism would be a close match for the age of Anne or, possibly, Rosina.

Elizabeth was baptised late in 1842 yet her age reflects a birth around 1839 or 1840.

But - Jane and Eliza were both baptisned in 1853 yet from the Census they were obviously several years old at the time.

This means that the baptisms of the other children may also have been delayed.

But the most interesting names are Lavinia and Rosina.

I have searched FreeBMD and can find no reference to a birth for Rosina Stephens/Stevens anywhere near the right time.

I can also find no reference to a death for Lavinia which further suggests the possibility that she was actually Anne or Rosina.

Any further information you can offer would be helpful here and I will see what more I can dig up.

CT