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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2009 0:21:58 GMT -5
CT Just a few musings from a first glance at this family from Illogan. I would like to suggest that Anthony (bap 1768) was the son of John and Elizabeth of St Ives. At this stage I am not sure where Elizabeth comes from. However the name Anthony is unusual but Anthony could have received it from his possible parents - Thomas Quick and Jane Carnarthen. Thomas's grandparents were Anthony and Elizabeth Randall. If this is the case then John was baptised in 1744 at St Ives but as I said before I am struggling with a marriage if my assumption is correct. Once this relationship is established it is not too hard to get through the Illogan parish entries and end up with the likes of William and Tabitha. There is a fly in the ointment, or two for that matter, John and Ann, who were both buried in Illogan in 1818 and were born in the 1750s. Right inbetween the births of Anthony and his possible parents. Would appreciate your thoughts if you have a mo. Lannanta
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2009 4:56:37 GMT -5
I am a bit miffed because after I typed out a large family history, pushed "post" it disappeared and I am too tired to do it all again.
Basically it said that all the Quicks in Illogan were descended from Anthony (bap 1768) and his two wives Grace and Jennifer/Jane.
Anthony (bap 1768 at St Ives) was the son of John and Elizabeth Quick and I know that he had one sister at least - Elizabeth (bap 1766 at St Ives). I do not know who these parents are at the moment. Maybe they were just married prior to Elizabeth's baptism, maybe not.
Also living at Illogan at this time were another couple - John and Ann Quick nee Wilking who married in Illogan in 1788. Both died in 1818, John aged 60 and Ann 66.
There is probably a simple answer to this but at the moment it escapes me.
Lannanta
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 11, 2009 18:30:56 GMT -5
Right-ho! This is a family that crossed my mind only a couple of days ago! Although I have not yet updated my database I can tell you that Elizabeth COCK was actually Elizabeth BINNY. Remember that Elizabeth COCK was a widow when she married John QUICK at St Ives in 1757. Now there was some discussion about this many months ago but I cannot remember which thread it was in. Anthony COCK married Elizabeth BENNY of St Ives 12th June 1752 at St Gluvias That is where the name Anthony came from in this particular QUICK family I would think. Elizabeth's baptism does not appear in the CFHS Transcript given it occurred prior to 1730. However it does appear in IGI:- Elizabeth BINNEY bp. 17th October 1727 St Ives d/o Henry and Elizabeth Henry BINNY married Elizabeth BURRELL at St Ives 28th December 1723 Henry's first wife died in 1727 and he then married Elizabeth STEVENS at St Ives 28th April 1729. She is believed to have been the daughter of Paul and Elizabeth (nee ROSEWALL) STEVENS. Henry was buried at St Ives in 1734 - "drowned whilst master of a ship" So there is the identity of Elizabeth solved and now we need to identify John! But we might first work on the rest of his family I think! As a matter of interest I was also only yesterday thinking about one of the QUICKs at the beginning of our very long discussions. Thomas QUICK who died at Camborne in 1727. I just noticed something in my database that might be of interest to you:- Thomas QUICK (s/o Benedict and Prudence) married Jane CANARTHEN - OF CAMBORNE - 10th June 1732 at Lelant. Maybe there is another lead here! CT
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 11, 2009 18:41:53 GMT -5
Lannanta - on reading your note again it brings me back to my last comment regarding Jane Canarthen! This could possibly also be a link for Anthony's appearance at Illogan. The problem is that John QUICK would have been 17 years the junior of Elizabeth BINNEY. There are a few other options for John QUICK:- 1716 Lelant s/o Andrew and Margaret 1725 St IVes s/o James and Margaret 1729 St Ives s/o Andrew and Mary and the one I would consider favourite at the moment is John bp. 8th October 1732 CAMBORNE s/o Thomas QUICK What think you of that old bean? CT Remember also that the only known Thomas s/o Anthony and Elizabeth was buried at Towednack 7th November 1703. But it might be possible that there was another of that name and that he could be the man at Camborne.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 11, 2009 18:59:13 GMT -5
There is another unknown involved here.
John married Elizabeth COCK in 1757 yet the first known child is Elizabeth baptised at St Ives in 1766.
This leaves plenty of scope for more children and it is quite possible some or all were born/baptised at Illogan or nearby.
Unfortunately even IGI does not have baptisms for Illogan and nor does the OPC so we may need to contact the OPC.
In fact I might try that now.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2009 19:11:39 GMT -5
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I have been very unhappy with the prospects for John and Elizabeth so I was pleased to know that there is an alternative option for Anthony.
As I see it all the QUICKs of Illogan are descended from Anthony Quick and his two wives - Grace Knight and Jennifer Carbis.
Anthony married Grace in 1794 and had : John bap 1795 - married Elizabeth Luke Mary bap 1797 - married Simon Harris Grace bap 1799 - married Tobias Angove Anthony bap 1801, died 1836, married Ann Jellert and Mary Pryor
Anthony next married Jennifer/Jane Carbis and had: William bap 1803 - married Tabitha Richards Joseph bap 1803 - married Grace Webster Richard bap 1810 - married Elizabeth Jelbert
Anthony junior (1801 - 1836) first married Ann Jellert in 1825 and they had one daughter in 1827, Elizabeth Ann, who died in 1829. This wife died in 1830 and then Anthony married Mary Pryor in 1830 and they had two children that I am aware of - Anthony 1833 and Elizabeth 1834.
William and Tabitha had Amelia Tabitha in 1842. Joseph and Grace had William in 1833.
So that pretty much covers them in Illogan. The exceptions being the John Quick who married Ann Wilking in 1788 as mentioned before. They both left a will which I have ordered but based on previous experience I fully expect to be disappointed.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2009 19:15:30 GMT -5
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By a process of elimination I managed to purchase a few baptisms for Illogan but only for Anthony and below - not for Anthony's generation.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2009 19:20:27 GMT -5
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I agree.
Guess I need to know who this Thomas is.
Lannanta
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2009 19:26:28 GMT -5
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Thomas Quick bap 1702 at Gulval, son of Thomas Quick and Jane Jones, had a brother Arthur (Anthony).
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 11, 2009 21:03:33 GMT -5
Keep going mate - we will nut this problem out in the long run.
I have finished working through the Quick marriages on the OPC site but only for the main West Penwith Parishes.
I still need to go back and look at Illogan etc plus a couple of others down around the Lizard area.
I have also just made a Parish list for every Parish up to the boundary of St Agnes, Kea and Feock.
The plan is to work through each of those (63 of them) and make sure I have all baptisms, burials and marriages that are not included in the OPC site.
From there I hope to start moving East but will concentrate on those Parishes for which I have PR transcripts for a start.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2009 21:42:38 GMT -5
CT Sort of at the messy stage at the moment with this lot at Illogan. I think that I might enter the data from Anthony down and wait for some more data from the appropriate parishes. I am off to Rarotonga tonight 8-)for a few days in the warm ;D ;D with the boys here from work so other than maybe a glance later on this afternoon I will away until early next week. Lannanta
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 11, 2009 22:59:55 GMT -5
No problem mate - go off and enjoy yourself and relax for a while. I will continue with my little project of which I have now completed Sennen, St Levan, St Buryan and St Just. My email explains the main item of interest I have come up with so will await your thoughts on that. Meanwhile - only 59 Parishes to go and then I can start moving Eastwards. CT
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2009 4:21:38 GMT -5
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Will do but I get the feeling that somewhere there is a link with St Ives, Illogan and Camborne and it is just waiting to be pieced together. Unfortunately the lack of PR info might make that difficult at the moment.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 12, 2009 5:58:24 GMT -5
Lannanta - regarding that Thomas who was buried at Camborne in 1727 - you may remember when this all first started that I thought I had something noted somewhere about a connection with Towednack. I still have not located and worked my way through all the paperwork but there is still the chance that the memory of that detail was correct. With some luck I may get to that paperwork in the near future so will see what I can find. But I do tend to agree about the possible links. CT
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2009 0:38:37 GMT -5
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Just as a matter of interest. I can confirm that the John Quick who was buried at Illogan in 1818 was the brother of Anthony. This John was born about 1758 but I do not appear to have a baptism for him, but I do for Anthony.
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