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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2009 18:03:01 GMT -5
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I have a Paul Quick married to Alice Hosking, Paul being the son of Richard Quick and Elizabeth Daniel.
I found him and his family in the 1841 and 1851 census but not in any subsequent census. Does anybody know what happened to him, or have I just missed him in 1861?
Lannanta
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Post by Sarch on Apr 23, 2009 0:50:58 GMT -5
If this is the same Paul Quick who had a daughter Christiana who married George Stevens 10 Nov 1853 St Ives. I can only find the George Stevens family in the 1861 Census and then they also seem to vanish. Another daughter Alice Quick married John Williams 12 Sep 1860 St Ives. In the 1861 census I can find a brother and sister with her - always supposing that this is the same family. 12 Sep 1860 by Banns John Williams 26 bachelor Mariner of St. Ives (Father: Henry Williams, Labourer) Alice Quick 25 spinster of St. Ives (Father: Paul Quick, Miner) Witnesses: William Daniel Quick, John [?] 1861 Census Piece: RG9/1589 Place: Penzance -Cornwall Enumeration District: 7 Civil Parish: St. Ives Ecclesiastical Parish: - Folio: 136 Page: 30 Schedule: 163 Address: Dygey Meadow -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks WILLIAMS Alice Wife M F 25 Seamans Wife(Merchant Service) Cornwall - St Ives QUICK Paul Boardr U M 24 Fisherman Cornwall - St Ives QUICK Catherine Boardr U F 17 Tailoress Cornwall - St Ives Sarch
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 23, 2009 4:02:15 GMT -5
Sarch - yes this is the same Paul with Christiana and Alice marrying STEVENS and WILLIAS respectively.
Elizabeth married Henry HONEY at St Ives in 1855.
Catherine married John BARBER in 1868.
In case you do not have it here is what I have on the sons:-
Richard - presumed died young but I have found no burial for him.
John - married Alice Nichols SMITH at St Ives in 1853. John drowned in Bassett Bay in 1872 and is buried at Barnoon.
Paul - married Grace VEAL at St Ives in 1862.
William Daniel - married Mary Noall VEAL at St Ives in 1862.
Richard - nothing further known at this time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2009 4:45:45 GMT -5
I thought that he may have emigrated but I do not have access to those sort of records - perhaps Australia or New Zealand. But then again it would be unusual for a parent to leave all his family behind maybe? Lannanta
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Post by Sarch on Apr 23, 2009 7:56:51 GMT -5
Hi lannanta
on BMD I can find 3 Alice Quicks dying between 1851 and 1861
Alice Q JUN 1855 Penzance 5c 211 Alice Q JUN 1857 Penzance 5c 20(60) Alice Q MAR 1859 Penzance 5c *48
Rather more BMD records for Paul Quicks dying between 1851 & 1861 (have only included the Penzance entries
Paul Q Penzance Mar 1852 penzance 5c 218 Paul Q Penzance Jun 1852 Penzance 5c 215 Paul Q Penzance Jun 1854 Penzance 5c 190 Paul Q Penzance Jun 1857 5c 20(6 ) Paul Q Penzance Jun 1860 5c 230
There is a Paul Quick and an Alice Quick dying in the same quarter Jun 1857? could this be the Paul and Alice you are looking for?
Have searched Born Cornwall Died....... but found no record there of Paul & Alice dying o/seas
Sarch
P.S. Born Cornwall Died.... is worth contributing to if you have Cornish relatives who died o/seas - as it is a great help to those who don't have access to other databases - the great thing for me is that you can enter the names of the deceased's parents as well as that of the spouse.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 23, 2009 8:55:35 GMT -5
Seems I left out something from my last post. I had composed the post and hit the 'send' button but the system fouled up and I lost it all. It would appear that my 're-write' did not include the following:- Alice QUICK, age 52, of St Ives was buried 30th May 1855 at St Ives This was Paul's wife and the record is avaiable on the OPC site. Working from the 1851 Census she was the only Alice possible but, unfortunately, there is no record available for Paul. CT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2009 21:40:00 GMT -5
Hmmm
I have known for quite a while that there was a Paul Quick here in Christchurch, New Zealand, but I did not know much about him.
I now know that Paul was buried at the Avonside cemetery, the home of the infamous parson Rev Henry Glasson, on the 15th November 1869. In the burial record it states that he was 63 years of age and that he was a miner.
It does not say that he was from Cornwall, however it is suggesting that he was born around 1806. The death entry will not show too much more information if any so it would really be a stroke of luck to establish exactly who he was.
Lannanta
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Post by Sarch on Apr 23, 2009 23:52:16 GMT -5
Hi Lannanta
Is it not possible to get a Death Notice for the Paul Quick miner d 15th November 1869 buried Avonside aged 63?
The other places to look are in the Obituary pages in Cornish newspapers and perhaps in the o/seas news section, as there are snippets of news of people abroad.
Don't know how long news would take to travel from New Zealand but I would start looking from Dec 1869 to abt March 1870?
The Library in Penzance had some newspapers on film and I think also the LDS Library in Redruth but not sure where available outside of Cornwall.
Sarch
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2009 0:14:46 GMT -5
Hi Sarch
For the paltry sum of 20 NZ dollars I could get a copy of Paul's death entry in the register but as it occurred prior to 1875 it will contain little information that is of use. If he had waited six or so years there would have been the opportunity for him to tell somebody where he came from and who his parents were. ;D
Actually the information that I do have is from the death notice in the Lyttelton Times newspaper.
Lannanta
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 24, 2009 8:11:19 GMT -5
This may be of some possible use. I just did a search of IGI for a Paul QUICK born in the years 1804 to 1806 inclusive and anywhere in the World. Obviously this is limited by what information is currenty indexed however there is only one recod:- Paul son of John and Grace QUICK baptised 30th March 1807 St Agnes near Truro Be interesting to see if this fella disappears from Cornwall and if he had any possible family that might have disappeared with him. At the moment he must be the top candidate but it is, of course, relying on his age being accurate within two years. CT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2009 17:00:22 GMT -5
CT
ANZAC Day me old mate, another year gone by.
I guess your thinking is that Paul, the husband of Alice, most likely died in Cornwall between 1851 and 1861?
Lannanta
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 24, 2009 23:20:20 GMT -5
Lannanta - yep another one gone - and Essendon vs Collingwood in the AFL this afternoon so I will be watching that.
Yep - my current thinking is that Paul is one of the four (other than 1854 who we know) who died between the 1851 and 1861 Census.
If we can somehow find records for at least a couple of these it will be of help so I will see if I have anything among my collection that will give any clues.
Paul 'may' have emigrated but I doubt it.
CT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2009 0:29:19 GMT -5
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I agree with that. I do have the Paul Quick from St Agnes in 1841 to 1861 census after which time he disappears. He is also a miner that fits the bill but he may also have died I suppose. No NZ record for his wife Mary though.
Lannanta
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 25, 2009 3:37:19 GMT -5
Okay - we might have to do a bit of work on this Paul and his family. It is possible that Mary died and Paul emigrated with one or more of his children. Also possible that some members of the family had already emigrated and Paul joined them - again perhaps after the death of Mary. Hopetheticals only. Might also be a different Paul - and could even be from Ireland! Let's work on the theory that he was a good Cornishman and see where that leads.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2009 17:49:34 GMT -5
CT You have me at a bit of a disadvantage here as I am not sure that I know or have recorded who the Paul who died in 1854 is. Unless it is the old Paul who was the farmer at Trevessa. Lannanta
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