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Post by Cornish Terrier on Dec 3, 2009 5:16:13 GMT -5
Thanks Lannanta for answering this - it has saved me some time in having to look up my records. Guy - at this point in time James son of Francis and Elizabeth is still a bit of a mystery. I think it quite possible that he was 'Jacob' the father of Israel Quick, "mariner of HMS York" whose Administration was granted to his father 'Jacob Quick' in 1710. It is quite some time since I looked at this particular problem but I must say that it now makes quite a bit of sense. Some time back I had a thought (dangerous!! ) which prompted me to take a closer look at all the known Israel Quicks. (At least those born prior to about 1900.) What I found was that every one of them could be traced back to one family only - that of Francis and Elizabeth! Even where Quick married Quick there was one of the two parties who was a direct descendant of Francis. Not one of the brothers of Francis has the name Israel as a direct descendant EXCEPT where a marriage occurred with a direct descendant of Francis and Elizabeth. (Hope that is not too confusing? ) Based on that it then makes sense that Israel of 1710 was the grandson of Francis via his son James. CT
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Post by guyg01 on Dec 24, 2009 19:05:04 GMT -5
Hi CT and Lannanta
Best Wishes for Christmas and many thanks for all your help so far.
I have had another look at the children of James Quick and Catherine Trewelah and it appears that several were baptised at St Ives - James (1750), Mary (1757), Elizabeth (1759) and Wilmot (1769). All the children who survive childhood are mentioned in the will of James senior in 1795.
It would also appear that James senior (husband of Catherine) can only be the son of John Quick and Ann baptised on 30 Apr 1722 in Zennor (IGI).
If this is the case - then I need to work out which John Quick is James' father.
From what I can see there are two possibilities - a) John Quick ba 4 Jul 1697 the son of Paul Quick and Jane Quick b) John Quick, the son of John Quick who was the son of James Quick and Jane Knight
Can you help with this?
Regards
Guy
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Post by Sarch on Dec 25, 2009 0:00:37 GMT -5
Hello Guy Nadelik Lowen I have John Quick married to Ann Vibert as the parents of James Q married to Catherine Trewelah I have a note for John Quick (m to Ann Vibert) that he lived with his grandfather James in Zennor, (James was married to Jane Knights als Roberts) Parents of John Q married to Ann Vibert are John Quick and Jane Morrish Sarch ;D
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Dec 25, 2009 1:51:43 GMT -5
G'day Guy - I am sure Lannanta will agree that it is our pleasure to be of help. The links Sarch has provided are correct with the elder James being son of Thomas and Zenobia. But before you ask I have to say that at this point in time I have no information about John (1697) son of Paul and Jane. I am also not quite certain about their son Israel. In fact all I know about him is that he was mentioned in the Will of his father Paul Quick in 1710 - "my son Israel if he do live to the age of 21 .... " Only a few months ago I sorted out the two eldest daughters. Jane married Joseph Cornish at Towednack in 1716 and had five children all born at St Hilary. Jane was buried at St Hilary 11th June 1725. Joseph Cornish then married Jane's sister Elizabeth Quick "of Zenor" 23rd June 1728 at St Winnow. I have not yet found burials for Joseph or Elizabeth. The youngest daughter Ann married John Stevens at Towednack in 1728. Ann was buried at St Ives 16th September 1729 - the same day her son William was baptised. CT
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Penny
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Quick, Richards, Price, Cox, Home, Luke, Whear
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Post by Penny on Apr 9, 2010 22:24:29 GMT -5
Hi Ross
You mention someone in Ballarat who has a book on the Quick family. Do you have a contact for this person, or know how I can find out which Quick family it is. I want Kitty and Benedict Quick.
Thank you
Penny
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Post by Sarch on Apr 11, 2010 23:53:53 GMT -5
Hi Penny Re Book on Ballarat QuicksI think the person you are looking for is Tania Shalders from the Terang Genealogical Society - contact details here www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/society.htmRegards Sarch
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Post by brianterry141 on Jun 1, 2010 2:38:19 GMT -5
I have only just joined and have been looking at each forum.Disappointed that each of my own family surnames seemed to be another family completely. I looked at the section on names of interest and amyjopet's post I found a potential match. According to my data (most of which I believe to be accurate and the documentary evidence can be shown) John Quick 1575-1635 born and died in Gulval married Phillipa Mayow 1573-1630 Their son Thomas Quick b1600-1644 married Zenobia Sinobyl 1600-1664 born in Redruth died in Towednack married abt 1619 They had children Phillipa Quick b 1619 in Zennor has grandmother's forename Francis Quick 1623 to 5 Dec 1689 born in Zennor died in Towednack. Married Elizabeth unknown John Quick 1630-1716 born in Zennor died in Towednack. James Quick 1632-1704 born and died in Zennor Anthony Quick 5 Oct 1634 -4 Oct 1689 born in Zennor died in Towednack.Married Jane Knighte 1632-1714 on 13 Oct 1649 in Zennor Emblem Quick 1635-1715 born in Zennor died in Redruth Thomas Quick b 1647
My connection to the quick family is via Anthony He and Jane Knighte had offspring William 1651-1699 born in Zennor died at St Ives Gabriel 1651-1716 born in Zennor died in Gwennap Grace 1657-1737 born and died in Zennor John 1661-1716 born in Zennor died at St Ives. Not too sure about this one Jane 1 Feb 1664-15th Jan 1714 born and died at Towednack Zenobia 1667-1763 born and died in Zennor. Has grandmother's forename? Richard 1699
John Quick 1655 to 7 Sep 1741 born in Zennor died at St Ives and Married Jane Morrish 8 Mar 1666 died 1732 born and died in St Ives.
[Diversion Jane is interesting.She was the dau of Henry Morrish and Anne Grenfield. Anne's parents were Hercules Grenfield and Jane Busvargus with as yet unproven links to the Grenville family, Henry's parents were John Morrish and Elizabeth Noye ] Daughter Mary Quick born 29 Mar 1685 at St Ives Married Robert Uren ( my 6th great grandfather) Their son Robert Uren born 12 Apr 1716 in St Ives marries Jane Triscot 19 Nov 1743 at St Issey One of their daughters Hester (or Esther) b 9 Sep 1750 in Gwithian marries John Carthew. Their daughter Mary Carthew born 16 Oct 1788 in Gwithian died in 1 Mat 1875 marries Thomas Hosking (my third Great Grandfather) in Phillack 6th Apr 1810. Their son Benjamin marries Elizabeth Jane Rodda 23 Aug 1854 in Phillack I have traced the Rodda family back to William Rodda b 1604 in Madron Their son George Rodda Hosking b 15 Jan 1859 in Phillack died 1912 Plymouth (2b 259) marries Deborah Beer 5 Dec 1882 in Plymouth (5b 29). Their daughter Lily ( my grandmother)b 28 Mar 1886 St Andrew Plymouth died 11 Apr 1974 in Romford marries Harold Emerson Read b 25Sep 1885 died 26 Jun 1960 in Brighton. One of their daughters was Mabel Florence Read (my mother) who married Herbert Cecil Terry 17th Set 1932.
It maybe that the above will be of some interest
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Post by brianterry141 on Jun 1, 2010 5:23:17 GMT -5
OOPS Further to my Last. Due to a senior moment ( which are nowadays frequent) I have shown Anthony Quick as Jane Knighte husband not James.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jun 1, 2010 11:39:49 GMT -5
Well it seems there is going to be some more discussion on the Quick family! It will take me a few days to work through the information provided and line it up with the research of myself and Lannanta but I do have one ore two comments/queries for now. First thing is the details about John Quick and Philippa Mayow. What details can you provide for this marriage as it is not one I have ever found. I also noted the information about the death/burial at Gulval in the 1630s but have also not been able to find records of those events. The nearest I can find at the moment is from IGI and is a marriage in Devon in 1610:- Johan Quicke m. Philip Bellew 12th May 1610 Stockleigh English, Devon I agree with the possibility that Philip(pa) may have been named after one of her grandmothers but I have so far seen no evidence of who those grandparents may have been. Next point is a comment:- SINOBYL is not the surname of Zenobia but is rather a variation of her Christian name which has also been found as Cynobys. I have seen the record (IGI) that makes it appear as a surname but it is merely what I would term a misrecorded attempt at showing the variation of the name. To my knowledge no surname has ever been found for Zenobia. What I do find interesting here is the mention of Redruth as a birthplace for Zenobia. We know there was a Thomas Quick around Camborne later on and the possible link back to Zennor is still proving elusive but I have to say there is almost 100 years to cover. Please forgive me if some of the above seems 'picky' but I am curious as to the origins of some of the very early information. You mention sources so I would really appreciate details of any sources that can help verify the information particularly about John and Philippa. None of my research over the years has ever turned up any of this so I am keen to learn more. Hopefully this discussion will lead to some fruitful results in sorting out some of the early problems with the Quick families. CT
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jun 2, 2010 12:01:08 GMT -5
As in my previous post I would like to see some details of the early part of your information regarding John Quick and his wife Philippa. None of this information can be found in the Millett and Bolitho transcript of Gulval registers and the only Zenobia to be found baptised at Redruth was Zenobia Tremaine in 1642. That aside I need to make some comments and corrections to the following:- John Quick of St Ives wrote his Will 7th August 1732 and it was proved 26th April 1733. He could therefore not have died in 1741. In fact it is believed John was buried at Zennor on the day his Will was written. His wife Jane was buried at St Ives 24th April 1736 "Jane Quick of Hendra, widow" In his Will John Quick his wife Jane 'one milch cow together with the keeping or leasing of the same on my estate in Hendra ....' and '.... unto my said loving wife the new house in Hendra aforesaid ....' Other bequests in this Will were:- '.... my son John Quick the sum of five pounds ....' 'I give unto my three daughters Jane Hambly, MARY HAMBLY and Elizabeth Thomas five pounds .....' '.... my grandson John the son of James Quick ...' John HAMBLY married Jane QUICK 28th September 1703 at St Ives Middleton THOMAS married Elizabeth QUICK 10th September 1719 at Lelant The marriage of Mary has not yet been found but she is clearly named as Mary HAMBLY in her father's Will. Hambly is not a common name in the West of Cornwall and the following children have so far been found at St Ives who are most likely grandchildren of John and Jane Quick:- William son of William and Mary Hambly bp. 12th December 1718 Mary daughter of Wm. and Mary Hambly bp. 9th January 1721 At this point in time the identity of the Mary QUICK who married Robert UREN is not yet known. CT
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Post by brianterry on Dec 6, 2010 11:02:12 GMT -5
Perhaps this data might be of interest Thomas Quick (Francis 's father is my 9th great grandfather).
No trace of marriage Thomas Quick and Zenobia
Can't find Marriage of Elizabeth Paul in Devon or Cornish registers but I think Francis marries Elizabeth Paul 1650 Family search data Francis Quick Male Event(s):Birth:1623 Zennor, Cornwall Death:05 DEC 1689 Towednack, Cornwall Burial:05 DEC 1689 Towednack, Cornwall Marriages: Spouse:Elizabeth Paule Marriage:About 1650 Towednack, Cornwall
This data is unsupported but Francis's death is correct (by register) Francis 's father is Thomas Quick married to Zenobia maybe 1619 in Zennor
From Bishop`s Transcripts (Exeter) 1597–1674 FamilySearch.org Husband Thomas Quick Birth: About 1600 Christening: Marriage Wife Zenobia 1600 Children 1Philipp Quick Female Birth: About 1622 Zennor Zennor Register not accessible 2.Francis Quick Male Birth: About 1623 Zennor Zennor Register not accessible Burial: 05 DEC 1689 Towednack in Towednack register 3 Thomas Quick Male Birth: After 1624 Zennor Zennor Register not accessible
4 John Quick Male Birth: 1630 Zennor: Zennor Register not accessible 5 James Quick Male Birth: 1632 Zennor Zennor Register not accessible
6 Anthony Quick Male Birth: 05 OCT 1634 Zennor Zennor Register not accessible
7 Emblem Quick Female Birth: About 1635 Death: About 1715 Towednack No trace in register
Will of Francis Quick FRANCIS QUICKE, yeoman, of Towednack written: 5 Dec 1689 proved: 27 Jan 1689/90 son: ISRAEL QUICKE 12 d. son: MATHEW QUICKE 1 heifer of 12 months son: JAMES QUICKE 1 red cow with a white rump formerly bought of FFRANCIS PHILLIPS son: FFRANCIS QUICKE 1 white head cow formerly bought of THOMAS MAJOR son: THOMAS QUICKE 1 heifer of 12 months wife: ELIZABETH QUICKE 1 bed lying in the chamber over the hall daughter: EDNA w/o ADRANE STEVENS 5 L each of ISRAEL QUICKE`s children 1 sh. son MATHEW QUICKE`s 3 children 3 heifers of 2 years son-in-law: ADRANE STEVENS 5 L FFRANCIS s/o MATHEW QUICKE 4 ewe lambs son: PAULE QUICKE all the rest & executor Ffrancis ( ) Quicke witnesses: ROBERT CURNOW, JOHN LANDER, KATHERINE ( ) STEVENS Inventory 26 December 1699 by JAMES QUICKE & MATTHEW STEVENS AP/Q/30 ............
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Post by teesakiwi on Jan 14, 2011 6:52:06 GMT -5
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 14, 2011 7:49:26 GMT -5
Teresa - I have only one thing to say DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME! For starters Poughill is right up in the North of Cornwall near Morwenstow and so is not far from Devon where you can find Quick families as early as the 1500s in IGI. CT
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Post by teesakiwi on Jan 15, 2011 5:20:49 GMT -5
THanks CT.....I PROMISE.....I WON'T LOOK!! ;D
Cheers Teresa
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 15, 2011 7:36:50 GMT -5
Which means, of course, that you will have a look! I meant to point out something about that Geni site. It seems that everyone who is given access via invitation is added to that first tree you see displayed. That, I think, will be where all those 'confusing cousin' links you mentioned come from. I know because I have been added to at least one of those myself.
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