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Post by davidkingmartin on Oct 6, 2008 8:48:48 GMT -5
Quick/Berriman. Ian: You probably "have" this one:
Paul Quick 1722-1822, Towednack, wife Grace Berryman, b.1723. Paul`s father is: Paul 1692-1742, m.1 Aug.1718 Wilmot Curnow, b 1700, 24 Nov. Died 7 July 1765.. Wilmot`s parents appear to be: Robert C.1658-1744, wife Wilmot Rosewall, marr.30 April 1683. I have seen the name "Rosewall" in other places on this site.
David.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Oct 6, 2008 23:54:00 GMT -5
Thanks David - yes I do have this one but, like most others, there is still probably work to be done. Paul and Grace, according to IGI, were married at Truro 8th August 1750 but I have not yet checked the accuracy of this. Paul was buried at Towednack 29th November 1811, age 89 after writing his Will (proved 1812) in 1790. Grace was the daughter of Arthur BERRYMAN and Grace (nee CARVOSO) and was buried at Towednack 27th December 1799. Your other details appear correct and I am surprised that our ROSEWALL enthusiast has not yet mentioned this one.
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Post by davidkingmartin on Oct 8, 2008 12:33:43 GMT -5
Ian...more. Useless info. perhaps, but..... From my late father`s papers: "Paul Roach, a hermit from a chapel family in Nancledra...with companion Jimmy Berryman...Henry Giles Martin {living} nearby". Henry`s wife is Cleria Berryman, and a daughter is Olga Varker (who has children). I have correspondence in front of me with members of the Varker family (found in my father`s papers). The father of H G Martin is John Martin 1845, no.3 Poolhedgy on 1871 Census, and my g-grandfather. A brother of John`s , Joseph 1853, went to Australia. There has got to be a link here somewhere between Roach and Berryman(Berriman)......
David.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Oct 8, 2008 13:36:55 GMT -5
David - have only had a very quick look at this for now but will do more later. FreeBMD has two entries that I have found for Henry Giles Martin. One was born in S.Shields (Lancashire, I think) about 1869. The second was born in the Penzance District in 1885 so I think this will be the one referred to in your father's papers. The fellow in S.Shields was married in 1895 to either Mary Cross or Edith Sutherst. He appears to have been the father of a son of that name in 1899 - again at S.Shields. In the 1891 Census there is a Henry G MARTIN (born Gulval about 1885) living at Gulval with parents John and Lavinia MARTIN and several siblings. This is probably your Henry Giles and his father was then age 45 which fits with the 1845 birth you have quoted. Have not yet found a baptism for him but it is almost certainly 'your man'. Must to bed now but will see if I can find the opportunity to follow up on this and see if I can track the ROACH/BERRYMAN connections. CT
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Post by davidkingmartin on Oct 9, 2008 4:37:25 GMT -5
Ian: I have no" problems" with Henry Martin: his descendants remained in touch with my late father for half-a-century. The name "Giles" probably comes from his grandmother, Hannah Giles Williams (mother,that is, of Lavinia W.Rowe). I am trying to "track" the Rowe and Williams back in time...early days yet. My grandparents wanted to name my father (Joseph) "Giles" but had second thoughts on the subject. As for the Berryman/Roach scenario....
David.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Oct 10, 2008 11:16:34 GMT -5
Thanks David - once I am settled again I will make a few updates from this information and then think about looking at the ROACH/BERRYMAN side of things. I have a bit of Roach information here and have done quite a bit on the Berryman families over the years so let's see where it leads. A little more to do before bed and then lots of work tomorrow with the big move.
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Post by quickr on Nov 25, 2009 22:24:06 GMT -5
Hi,
I've only just found this forum and it looks very promising so far.
I am a decendant of Israel Quick born 1834. and am having trouble following your famliy tree.
it is correct as far as i can tell, although as far as i knew there were only two brothers who came to ballarat (australia) and who then later died in ballarat.
If you have any further information on israel quick and his descendants that you could maybe pass on to me that would be great! there is a lady in ballarat, but i can't remember her name, whos husband is the descendant of Israels brother and who has put together a great book on the family tree and history of the ballarat Quicks who you should try to gain contact with, she would be very appreciative of your information!
Thanks
Ross Quick
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Post by guyg01 on Nov 29, 2009 19:06:29 GMT -5
Hi
I would be very interested to know more of the family of Thomas Quick b c 1600.
Is the James who married Jane Knight the son of Thomas Quick?
I have Antony the sonne of Thomas Quick and his wife Sinoby baptised 5th Oct 1634 in Zennor, but I have not found any other baptisms of Thomas's children.
Regards
Guy
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 30, 2009 2:37:05 GMT -5
Yes Guy - James is believed to be certainly a son of Thomas and Zenobia.
Apart from Anthony there is only one other child confirmed by a baptism record and that is Phillipa baptised 22nd November 1619 at Zennor.
Emblyn can also be confirmed as a daughter from her marriage at Gwithian as 'daughter of Thomas Wicke, deceased'.
CT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2009 16:38:12 GMT -5
Hello Guy I agree with CT and you will find him the most knowledgeable on the subject of the QUICK family. Be aware as you come down through the generations as there are a lot of places where QUICK intertwined with QUICK and there are a number of public published trees on the web where associations are incorrect. If you have a connection that you are not sure about, or you are aware that others disagree, just ask and we will give you the benefit of our experience - well CT's anyway Lannanta
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Post by guyg01 on Dec 1, 2009 18:04:28 GMT -5
Many thanks CT and lannanta
Could you point me in the right direction for my outstanding Quick lines -
a) James Quick of Zennor, yeoman whose will was proved 20 Feb 1741 - I am descended from his daughter Phillis.
b) William Quick who married Wilmot Quick 31 Dec 1787 at Towednack. I am descended from their daughter Mary Quick born 1800 in Zennor
I am OK now on Wilmot's two lines back to Thomas Quick and Zenobia.
Many thanks
Guy
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Post by Sarch on Dec 2, 2009 1:28:30 GMT -5
Hello Guy
Is this Phyllis Thomas Quick you are descended from, as I do not have a marriage for her?
I have James died 1741 Zennor married to Mary James was the son of James Quick (son of Thomas and Sinoby/Zenobia) b abt 1624 d 1703 married to Jane Knights alias Roberts d abt 1713
I can find a marriage of a James Quick to a Mary in Gwinear 1701 on the Gwinear OPC Site
This sort of fits in with the James Quick and Mary above
Regards
Sarch
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Dec 2, 2009 7:02:20 GMT -5
Guy - from your description it would seem you are descended from the THOMAS family! James was son of James and Jane (Knight) although no baptism has been found. And he is believed to be the James Quick who married Mary (surname not recorded) at Gwinear in 1701. There are only two children for James and Mary for whom baptisms have been found and this is a problem with the Zennor (and possibly Towednack) PRs. Your William Quick was baptised 27th April 1755 at Towednack son of James Quick and Catherine Trewhela. Hope that helps for now and I will be happy to help further. But at the moment things are hectic leading into the fire season here so I will be a little slower than usual for a while. CT
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Post by guyg01 on Dec 2, 2009 14:09:13 GMT -5
Dear Ysel and CT
Many thanks for your quick replies
Ysel - Phillis Quick married George Thomas at Zennor on 26 Feb 1732/3.
The will of James Quick proved 1741 mentions Phillis as - daughter: PHILLIS w/o GEORGE THOMAS of Zennor, yeoman (http://webs.lanset.com/azazella/willscor8_pen.html).
CT - I am descended from the Thomas family (the Thomas als. Trithwell mob).
Incidentally have you got that George Thomas als. Trithwell d 1666/7 was the son of John Thomas als. Trithwell of Crowan, Gent. d. 1616/7?
I thought that James Quick - will proved 1741 - might be the son of James and Jane Knight - James the son of Francis Quick and Elizabeth Paule was the other possiblilty and I was not able to rule either one out!
I also thought that I had seen a burial record for my William Quick which suggested that he was born c 1754 - I will go back and check the BTs tomorrow.
Is this the William of Zennor yeoman who had a will proved in 1841? Wilmot Quick (wife of William) was buried at Towednack 11 Sep 1834 aged 71 - her abode was listed as Trendrine, Zennor.
Many thanks for giving me (I think) my first Trewhela ancestor!
I am assuming the 1842 will was of William who married Catherine (1761 - 7 Jan 1842) which would make him the som of William and Elizabeth baptised 30 Aug 1761
Good luck with the fire prevention!
Regards
Guy
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2009 19:46:07 GMT -5
William Quick, (husband of Wilmot buried in 1834) was born around 1755 at Towednack and was buried in 1845 at Towednack - he was the son of James Quick and Catherine Trewhella.
The William Quick who died in 1841 was the son of Paul Quick and Grace Berryman and was the husband of Elizabeth Hollow.
Lannanta
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