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Post by Cornish Terrier on Mar 2, 2008 13:55:08 GMT -5
Tony - please see PM and I am hopeful something more will come from it.  Ian |
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Post by tonymitch on Mar 4, 2008 14:31:39 GMT -5
Thanks Ian,
I already knew about the Jane Furze hospital, but it doesn't seem to have any relevence to my rigidly nonconformist crowd.
The info about the Furze's going to SA before 1949 don't include Elizabeth Jane and I know she left London in1903 Cape bound (www.ancestorsonboard.com)
Don't forget, if she went to visit her brother we would be lookng for a John WILLIAMS as well as some reference to Elizabeth Jane FURZE.
For the record...the story of the piece of gold is that whilst in SA she and all the other women in the town were put down a gold mine for safety as the Boers were attacking. Whilst down there the mine manager's wife gave birth and the child was delivered by Elizabeth amidst all the grime and dust. The manager in thanksgiving for the safe delivery of the child, gave Elizabeth a gold nugget who had it made into two rings when she returned to the UK. I have these two rings. Interesting and romantic story....but. We know she went to SA AFTER the war was over! Aww s**t, and I did so want to believe the story!
By the way...what part of a chicken's anatomy are its nuggets?
Tony M
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Mar 6, 2008 9:56:28 GMT -5
If it is a 'male chook' I will let you guess. ;D It seems there is more work to be done here.  One thing is that I now have 'two' Genealogy Lists in South Africa that I am registered with.  Via these lists and other contacts I have made I thinkg we may be able to track down the information you require. There may be some delays due to my current on/off technical problems but I am sure we will get round this eventually. Must check the rest of the Board and then I am going to relax, have a feed and get some sleep - before looking at some of this again. Keep going old mate and I will help as soon as I can. Ian |
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Post by tonymitch on Mar 8, 2008 16:13:38 GMT -5
Thanks Ian,
I'm putting this on the general board a) as a big 'Thank You' and b) as it contains info which might help others.
Received from you the passenger list of SS Sophocles and Elizabeth J Furze, correct age etc is certainly on it bound for "Cape". Ancestersonboard.com state that she boarded in London and the passenger list seems at first to confirm this. However closer examination of the list shows that the ship was bound for Plymouth, Capetown, Melbourne and Sidney. The ticket numbers start at 99 and work up to 128. Elizabeth's name is almost at the bottom of the list but her ticket number is 65 and there is a small 'p' before her name in the column 'Port of Embarkation'. I assume that this means she boarded at Plymouth, and not London, so we shouldn't always believe what we find on the internet!
Small point maybe, but worth noting
Tony M
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Mar 9, 2008 11:48:22 GMT -5
Tony, I am only happy to help and am extremely glad to find that (it seems) I have come up with the information you were seeking. You must remember that this type of help may also help me in my own research. I first contacted these sites as I was looking for information on my own family of whom some spent time in South Africa. I then had a query from a Cousin in Cornwall who was looking for information from South Africa. I had first joined one Board (Will try and find - then post - details) and found much information. But when your own query came in I found I had to subscribe to a different List altogether. (No cost involved but you have to be registered.) So I simply posted an inquiry with the details you were seeking and ................. ;D And I hope that people on this Board might, if able, do the same to help others in similar situations. Ian |
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Post by Sarch on Jul 23, 2009 3:33:38 GMT -5
Hello Tony M I have a Death Notice for John William Furze who died 5 Feb 1897 Boksburg Transvaal Wife was Eliza Hosking and they had a son John William Furze born 27 December 1893. The Death Notice is signed by E Furze John William Furze's parents are given as William Furze and Elizabeth Jane Williams The minor child of John William Furze was left in the care of Eliza Leggo of Richmond St Haemoor, Penzance, letter dated 1905 Let me know if you want copies ;D Regards Sarch |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 23, 2009 6:37:21 GMT -5
Hi Sarch - you seem to have been absent for a while? I would be surprised if Tony did not want copies!  If it is not too much trouble would you mind also sending me copies for my records please? Every little bit helps. CT |
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Post by tonymitch on Jul 23, 2009 7:49:09 GMT -5
Wow Sarch....yes please. I wondered what dear old G-Grandmama was doing in S Africa.....First Boer War, then visiting a brother now definate news. I'll send you a PM....BTW (Ct please note) is there any sign of a William Furze dob 1867?
Tony M
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Post by tonymitch on Jul 23, 2009 8:04:05 GMT -5
Sarch....I'm having difficulty in sending you a PM....the thing just freezes. I'll try later today
Tony M
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 23, 2009 9:05:34 GMT -5
Toony - FreeBMD has a William Henry FURZE born Penzance R.D. March Qtr 1867 Vol 5c Page 349 This is the only William (Furze/Furse) in the Penzance area within a few years either side. I believe the following baptism from the OPC will be the same:- 18th February 1869 Pendeen William Henry s/o William and Elizabeth Jane FURSE of Carnyorth I reckon that just might be the one you are after! |
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Post by tonymitch on Jul 23, 2009 11:37:32 GMT -5
Thanks CT.....I've not been very clear.....I already have William (without the Henry, thanks for that) but have nothing for him after birth. I was wondering if he, like John, had gone to S Africa. Elizabeth went in 1909 to visit someone....John had died....had she gone to visit William?
Tony M
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Post by tonymitch on Jul 23, 2009 11:52:03 GMT -5
Sarch...I'm finding it impossible to contact you by PM...the thing just freezes....I can contact myself, so it isn't my connections or ISP. Could you please contact me via PM's with your email and I will then contact you by return.
Tony M
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 23, 2009 15:11:08 GMT -5
Tony - 20 minutes ago I could not tell you any more about William Henry. But now I can! ;D In 1881 William and Elizabeth J Furze were at Cryor right next to BOSTRAZE MOOR, St Just along with the kids including William. From the OPC site:- William Henry Furze of BOSTRASE age 19 buried at St Just 16th November 1886 I had tried the 1901 and 1891 Census first but he was not there. CT |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 16:17:13 GMT -5
Thanks Sarch,
Tony, this is, great Uncle John - He went to the Transvall about the same time my grandfather
Matt, G-U James and G-U Philip came to the US. Dad seemed to think G-U Bill also went there for
awhile. This also answers the 'Leggo Land' mystery. All these names are in Dad's notes.
I know our G-A Elizabeth Jane who married William Eddy, was a nurse, I am not sure about
great grandma. According to cousin in AU she ended up in the Manchester/Leeds area of the UK.
That's a far cry from Cornwall :-|
Phil
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Post by tonymitch on Aug 31, 2009 5:01:40 GMT -5
Cousin Jack.....I thought you were aware of g-g-ma being known as 'Nurse' Furze. This thread started with my desire to know more about her stay in S.Africa. She is listed in the 1901 census as 'nurse domestic' It is a bit confusing with her daughter Elizabeth also being a nurse and also known as 'Nurse' Furze. I once met a very old lady in Crows-an-Wray who claimed to have been delivered by 'Nurse' Furze. I thought it was Elizabeth Snr., but it could have been Elizabeth Jnr.
Elizabeth Snr., died in 1919 in Atherton Manchester at the home of my Dad her grandson. A far cry from Cornwall indeed and even further than from Modderfontain Boksburg in South Africa.
Does anyone out there know what a 'Nurse Dometic' is. Is it similar to a 'District' (or Community) Nurse of today?
Tony M
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