William Quick of Tremeder

[Cornish Terrier]

Once again Lannanta has offered me a task!

There is a will for a certain Thomas Quick of Zennor, husband of Elizabeth Stevens, buried 1799, in which he names the husbands of his three daughters. He apparently says of Elizabeth that she is the wife of William Lawry. This will is written in 1790, and as there is no change to the will before 1799 I can only assume that she was Mrs Lawry in 1799. Do you have a copy of that will?

However, in the will of her brother William, husband of Jane Christopher, all his lands etc in Tremeder are left to his two nephews, John and William Matthews, sons of his late nephew John Matthews.

I am struggling to see where the Matthews family have come from.

There was a marriage in 1779 in Zennor between Elizabeth Quick and John Matthews of Morvah - just down the road as I now know.

I have not yet found the marriage between Elizabeth and William Lawry.

Appreciate your thoughts.

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After a lot of work I have arrived at some conclusions which I will outline in my next.

CT

[Cornish Terrier]

Here is all the information I have from the Will of Thomas QUICK:-

THOMAS QUICK, yeoman, of Zennor

written: 10 Feb 1790
proved: 1 May 1799

son: WILLIAM
eldest daughter: ELIZABETH w/o WILLIAM LAWRY of Morval
2nd daughter: MARY w/o WILLIAM THOMAS of Treen, Zennor
3rd daughter: ANN w/o ARTHUR BERRYMAN JR. of Zennor
each of my grandchildren
wife: ELIZABETH executrix

Vol. 22, p. 289

There are two things that seem a little suspect here and my reasons for thinking so will become obvious below.

1. According to the above the Will was written 10th February 1790 but I wonder if that may be an error.

2. Elizabeth is named as 'wife of William LAWRY'
If the Will was written in 1790 then this cannot be the case which leads to the possibility that at least one alteration was made.

BUT if the Will was written in 1798 then all becomes clear.

It would be easy enough to mistake an 8 for a 0 in a document such as this!

My first major problem involves information I received from my cousin a number of years ago and I will need to contact her and offer my new thoughts prior to confirming absolutely the conclusions at which I have arrived.

Here, basically, is the initial information:-

Elizabeth BOASE bp. 5th February 1756 Penzance d/o Jacob and Elizabeth

m1. Francis MATTHEWS 2nd January 1781 at Madron
(Francis and Elizabeth were both 'of Penzance'.)

Four children before Francis is supposed to have died. (No burial yet found)

m2. John HARRY 8th May 1790 at Madron
(John and Elizabeth were both 'of Morvah' and Elizabeth was a widow)

Two sons, Thomas and John, from this marriage.

John HARRY bp. 3rd May 1761 Morvah s/o John and Alice
(Alice was daughter of Hannibal and Alice (nee TREWHEELA) HARRY)

John HARRY was buried at Morvah 21st May 1792 age 32

(I think his sister Jane (m1. Thomas ROWE) became the second wife of Henry QUICK the poet)

m3. William LAWRY 22nd October 1796 Morvah
(William and Elizabeth both 'of Morvah')

Two children from this marriage.

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I suspect that my cousin and others with connections to the BOASE and HARRY families 'might' have picked up on some incorrect information - I will know that after I have been in contact with her.

To avoid losing this and also to try and avoid some confusion by making the note too long I will break now and continue with Part 2 in my next.

[Cornish Terrier]

Part 2

Having outlined my previous information I will now set about producing what I now believe to be the correct scenario.

Based on the information supplied by Lannata from the Will of William QUICK (died 1833) we know that the MATTHEWS family is somehow connected so:-

John MATTHEWS of Morvah married Elizabeth QUICK 6th March 1779 at Zennor by Licence

Children:-

JOHN bp. 4th June 1780 Morvah
William bp. 5th May 1782 Morvah
Charles bp. 5th July 1784 Morvah
Elizabeth bp. 13th November 1786 Morvah

John MATTHEWS was buried at Morvah 17th September 1787 age 45

He was baptised at Morvah 13th October 1742 s/o Charles and Margaret (nee GRENDFIELD) MATTHEWS.

John HARRY of Morvah married Elizabeth MATTHEWS, wid., of Morvah at Madron 8th May 1790 by Licence

John HARRY buried 21st May 1792 at Morvah age 32

William LAWRY of Morvah married Elizabeth HARRY, wid., of Morvah at Morvah 22nd October 1796 by Licence (Morvah BTs)

There are two possible burials for Elizabeth - both at Morvah:-

15th November 1799
18th March 1802

I cannot find a possibility at Zennor.

Now - William QUICK in his Will of 1833 left all his lands etc. in Tremeder to his two nephews, John and William, sons of his late nephew John MATTHEWS.

John MATTHEWS of Morvah married Elizabeth QUICK 6th March 1779 at Zennor by Licence

Children:-

JOHN bp. 4th June 1780 Morvah
William bp. 5th May 1782 Morvah
Charles bp. 5th July 1784 Morvah
Elizabeth bp. 13th November 1786 Morvah

John MATTHEWS bp. 4th June 1780 Morvah (from above) as follows:-

John MATTHEWS of Morvah married Cordelia HICHENS of Morvah 13th May 1807 at Morvah (Morvah BTs)

Children:-

JOHN bp. 16th October 1808 Morvah
WILLIAM bp. 7th January 1810 Morvah
Eizabeth bp. 10th October 1812 Morvah

John MATTHEWS buried 17th March 1830 at Zennor age 49 'of TEMEDAR'

Cordelia MATTHEWS buried 26th November 1878 at Zennor age 92 'of TREMEADER'

That, I believe, will be PROBLEM SOLVED! ;D

(Pending, of course, confirmation and agreement from my cousin and others who had been researching the BOASE and HARRY lines.)

AND - I think it now reasonable to say that the date Thomas QUICK wrote his Will was 1798 and not 1790.

CT

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CT

John MATTHEWS of Morvah married Elizabeth QUICK 6th March 1779 at Zennor by Licence

Just so I get onto the right track.

This Elizabeth is William of Tremeder's sister? Both children of Thomas and Elizabeth?

Lannanta

[Cornish Terrier]

Yes - that is how I now see it.

What I have outlined will explain the references in the Wills of both Thomas and William Quick with the Will of Thomas actually being written in 1798 and not 1790. (I suspect the date was one of those where the 8 looked very much like a 0.)

The two outlines show 1. the information I originally had where the widowed Elizabeth MATTHEWS had been Elizabeth BOASE and 2. what I believe the correct situation where the widow was, in fact, Elizabeth QUICK.

All information, dates, names and places fit correctly.

I had, until now, had the wife of John MATTHEWS unattached as I could not work out where she fit into things.

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Well it all makes perfect sense to me. I was working along the same lines but the marriage to Mr Lawry and the Thomas will date of 1790 was making it difficult.

[Cornish Terrier]

Some items of interest from the CRO Online Catalogue:-

Morvah

AP Archdeaconry of Cornwall, Probate Court
AP/M Wills, Letter M
RefNo AP/M/2940
Title Will of John Mathews of Morvah

Date 1788

Description Administration

AP Archdeaconry of Cornwall, Probate Court
AP/H Wills, Letter H
RefNo AP/H/6896
Title Will of John Harry of Morvah

Date 1793

Description administration

ARD Archdeaconry of Cornwall
ARD/158 Defamation

RefNo ARD/158/42/1,2
Title Elizabeth, wife of John Harry of Morvah versus Richard Eddu of Morvah

Date 1790

This last one could be very interesting! (BTW - I think that is probably Richard EDDY)

CT