Thomas Quick & Maria Michell

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Another for a (hopefully) short but separate discussion.

Thomas QUICK bp. 12th August 1810 Zennor s/o James and Dinah (nee RICHARDS)

married 1st August 1835 Zennor

Maria MICHELL bp. 20th November 1814 Zennor d/o Samuel and Mary (nee TREWHELLA)

They had nine children of whom two died young.

Of the rest I know six married but am uncertain about William - however I will worry about them a little later.

My current interest is as follows:-

Maria was buried 14th August 1855 at Zennor - age 41 of Old Poor House.

In 1861 Thomas was at Back Street St Ives - now remarried to someone named ALVINA.

A search of FreeBMD shows the bride as Alvina BROAD.

Thomas QUICK m. Alvina BROAD
Penzance R.D. 1860 September Qtr Vol 5c Page 462

According to the Census she was born at St Hilary about 1822.

Searching IGI for the name ALVINA produced only 25 results for Cornwall so this has to be her:-

ALVINA WHISTLER OR BROAD Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 11 FEB 1821 Saint Hilary, Cornwall, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: WHISTLER Family
Mother: HANNAH BROAD

The Census record for 1851

Back Street, St Ives

Thomas QUICK, head, mar, 50, miner tin, Zennor
Alvina do., wife mar. 38, St Hilary
John PEARCE, son, unm, 14, miner tin, St Ives
Nanny QUICK, daur, unm, 14, Zennor
John do., son, 9, scholar, Zennor
Alice PEARCE, daur, 7, scholar, St Ives
George A S GILES, lodger, unm, 21, miner tin, Gulval
Thomas RICHARDS, do., unm, 22, miner tin, Goldsithney

The question is - just who were John and Alice PEARCE, clearly listed as son and daughter of Thomas QUICK.

It seems obvious that Alvina was not previously married although John and Alice may have been her children.

By 1871 Thomas, Alvina and the two PEARCE children have disappeared and there is no sign of another marriage or a death in FreeBMD for Alvina.

At Back Street St Ives three of Thomas QUICKs children, then unmarried, were living in the same house.

Agnes (bp. 1845) married Edward Richards THOMAS at St Ives 9th March 1872.
Nanny (bp. 1847) married David Gyles FREEMAN at St Ives 19th May 1872
John Michell (bp. 1851) married Mary Jane VEAL in 1887

Any thoughts or (more particularly ) help anyone?

CT

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The Census record for 1851

Back Street, St Ives

Thomas QUICK, head, mar, 50, miner tin, Zennor
Alvina do., wife mar. 38, St Hilary
John PEARCE, son, unm, 14, miner tin, St Ives
Nanny QUICK, daur, unm, 14, Zennor
John do., son, 9, scholar, Zennor
Alice PEARCE, daur, 7, scholar, St Ives
George A S GILES, lodger, unm, 21, miner tin, Gulval
Thomas RICHARDS, do., unm, 22, miner tin, Goldsithney

I am sure you mean 1861 above. In 1851 Alvina Broal (Broad?) is living in Wills Lane, St Ives with her 5 year old son John Pearce. It says that she is married, aged 30 and from St Hillier (Hillary).

So, the only Alvina that I can find was baptised in St Hilary on the 11th February 1821, daughter of a Mr Whistler and Hannah Broad. So maybe she was illegitimate?? And maybe she had a good friend Mr Pearce?

Lannanta

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CT

Just for interest, I see that the name had some popularity.

1. Place St Hilary Name Alvina SCHOLAR Aged 1y8m Date 21 Sep 1836
2. Place St Hilary Name Alvina SCHOLAR Aged Inf Date 1 Apr 1837

Also I do note that in 1861 there was a death for a Vernia Quick in the Penzance district, and then in 1866 there was a death for a Thomas aged 55 years.

Lannanta

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Lannanta - perhaps you already know about some of this family.

Thomas and Alvina 'may' have ended up in NZ.

Their eldest son Thomas married Elizabeth PHILLIPS at Zennor 4th June 1859.

They had seven children of whom six were baptised at Towednack up until 1874.

All children were daughters and I believe the whole family went to New Zealand where all the girls were married.

Be great if you do have knowledge/info on this lot as they are also descended from Samuel MICHELL/Mary TREWHELLA who are the subject of another thread that has just been resurrected by BAZ.

CT

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I can't stop laughing. What about this?

Christchurch City Council Cemeteries Database
Result Detail
Surname: QUICK
First name(s): THOMAS
Date of death: Sunday, 19 September 1897
Cemetery: Sydenham Cemetery
Date of burial: Wednesday, 22 September 1897
Block number: 2E
Plot number: 60
Age: 57
Address: SIMEON STREET
Occupation: MINER
Place of birth: ENGLAND
Years in New Zealand: unknown
Comments:

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And his wife

Christchurch City Council Cemeteries Database
Result Detail
Surname: QUICK
First name(s): ELIZABETH ANN
Date of death: Saturday, 12 August 1922
Cemetery: Sydenham Cemetery
Date of burial: Monday, 14 August 1922
Block number: 2E
Plot number: 60
Age: 83 years
Address: 149 SIMEON STREET
Occupation: UNKNOWN
Place of birth: ENGLAND
Years in New Zealand: unknown

;D ;D ;D

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I must have missed something .....

Anyway - Looks like them on all counts and I will follow up on the BROAD/PEARCE connection.

And Elizabeth PHILLIPS birth appears to have not been registered.

She was baptised as 'Elizabeth PHILLIPS' d/o Francis and Jane 4th August 1839 at Towednack.

Can't find a birth for Elizabeth or for Elizabeth Ann in FreeBMD.

Oh Well.

CT

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If you give me the girls christian names at some stage I will look for the marriages.

Lannanta

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Lannanta - here we are.

Then I had best get on and try to get all this data sorted and transferred.

Just watched Bonnie and Clyde - just to put me right in the mood! ;D

Daughters of Thomas and Elizabeth (nee PHILLIPS) QUICK

Maris Jane bp. 12th August 1860 Towednack
m. William Henry BUTCHER - 1881

Elizabeth bp. 12th August 1860 Towednack
m. Richard BODY - 1882

Anne bp. 27th December 1863 Towednack
m. James BUTCHER - 1883

Mary bp. 28th July 1867 Towednack
m. Arthur NEWMAN - 1885

Sarah bp. 14th November 1869 Towednack
m. John William OTTEN - 1889

Wilmot born 1871 (no further info regarding baptism)
m. Alfred George BETTS - 1902

Ruth Ann bn. 28th July 1874 and bp. 10th February 1875 Towednack
m. Edward EDWARDS - 1901

Apparently all marriages were in New Zealand.

I only know of children for Ruth Ann:-

Annie Elizabeth EDWARDS bn. 21st December 1901
m. Frederick SCHOCK

Edward Llewellyn EDWARDS born 1903

Lancelot EDWARDS born 1st November 1904
m. Iveline NEWMAN 28th February 1929

That's it - don't know any places etc.

CT