Quick - Which Matthew is which?

[gandolf]

Believe this one for you CT ;D

Just wanted to check whether I have correctly sorted out a couple of problem Matthew Quicks. Issue being that they are massively incosistent in recording their ages on the censuses.

I have the two Matthew Quicks as follows, can you let me know whether I have them correctly matched up?

Matthew QUICK (son of William Quick and Wilmot Quick)
b. c.1802 chr. 26 Sep 1802 Zennor
bur. 7 Jun 1877 Zennor
m. 22 Apr 1837 Zennor
Ann (Nanny) MATTHEWS
b. c.1816 chr. 31 Mar 1816 Zennor
bur. 8 Apr 1877 Zennor

Children:
1. Ann (Nancy) QUICK b. c.1837 chr. 15 Oct 1837 Zennor
2. Mary Jane QUICK b. c.1838 Zennor
3. Wilmot QUICK b. c.1841 chr. 11 Apr 1841 Zennor
4. William QUICK b. c.1842 Zennor
5. Christiana QUICK b. c.1844 chr. 5 May 1844 Zennor
6. Catherine QUICK b. c. May 1844 chr. 12 May 1844 Zennor, bur. 24 Jul 1844 Zennor

Christiana & Catherine appear to be twins, despite the differences in baptismal dates. Either that or Christiana was a year old?



Matthew QUICK (son of William Quick and Elizabeth Hollow)
b. c.1807 chr. 4 Oct 1807 Towednack
m. c.1836
Alice ??
b. c.1816 Zennor

Children:
1. James QUICK b. c.1837 Zennor
2. John QUICK b. c.1838 Zennor
3. Matthew QUICK b. c.1841 Zennor
4. William H. QUICK b. c.1842 Zennor
5. Dionysus QUICK b. c.1844 Zennor (or Towednack?)
6. Richard QUICK b. c.1846 Zennor
7. Mary Ann QUICK b. c.1849 Zennor (or Towednack?)
8. Matthew QUICK b. c.1850 Zennor
9. Charles QUICK b. c.1852 Zennor
10. Stephen QUICK b. c.1854 Zennor
11. Alice QUICK b. c.1855 Zennor
12. Francis T. QUICK b. c.1857 Zennor

[gandolf]

Nov 11, 2008 1:10:18 GMT -5 gandolf said:

Matthew QUICK (son of William Quick and Elizabeth Hollow)
b. c.1807 chr. 4 Oct 1807 Towednack
m. c.1836
Alice ??
b. c.1816 Zennor

Children:
1. James QUICK b. c.1837 Zennor
2. John QUICK b. c.1838 Zennor
3. Matthew QUICK b. c.1841 Zennor
4. William H. QUICK b. c.1842 Zennor
5. Dionysus QUICK b. c.1844 Zennor (or Towednack?)
6. Richard QUICK b. c.1846 Zennor
7. Mary Ann QUICK b. c.1849 Zennor (or Towednack?)
8. Matthew QUICK b. c.1850 Zennor
9. Charles QUICK b. c.1852 Zennor
10. Stephen QUICK b. c.1854 Zennor
11. Alice QUICK b. c.1855 Zennor
12. Francis T. QUICK b. c.1857 Zennor

OK, have partly answered my own question. The Matthew Quick who married Alice was NOT the son of William Quick and Elizabeth Hollow.

Have found his marriage on 25 Jun 1838 at Zennor to Alice Nekervis on the OPC site. Matthew's father is given as James Quick - I suspect most likely meaning the James Quick who married Dinah Richards.

So, the question then becomes am I correct in assigning Matthew QUICK (son of William Quick and Wilmot Quick) as the wife of Ann (Nanny) Matthews, or was it Matthew QUICK (son of William Quick and Elizabeth Hollow)?

And what happened to the other Matthew?

The problem is not helped by the ages given on the census records for Nanny's husband - that Matthew got progressively "younger" as the years went by.

[Cornish Terrier]

As far as I have ever been able to determine the Matthew who married Nanny MATTHEWS was certainly the son of William and Wilmot.

As you have mentioned - the fact that he could never work out how old he was does not help us but we must give him credit for training his family well.

Seems none of them could count!

Daughter Nancy (Ann in some records) was baptised in 1837 het appears in the Census records later with up to 7 years lopped off her age.

Mary Jane also seemed to imagine she was at least 4 to 6 years younger then she was.

And we must not forget Christiana although she appears to have only 'got younger' by a couple of years.

And from the 1871 and 1881 Census it would appear that it was she who married James Thomas.

James THOMAS m. Christiana QUICK Penzance R.D. 1869 June Qtr Vol 5c Page 415

In the 1881 Census they have four children - William Q, Wilmot Q, Annie and Matthew.
Also with them is sister Mary Jane who stated her age as 38.

Matthew s/o William and Elizabeth (nee HOLLOW) QUICK - I have just searched the Census again and I can find no trace of him in 1841 or 1851 so I do not know what became of him.

And some further information on the family of Matthew and Alice that I have just found.

The eldest two sons, John and James, were both baptised 17th February 1839 at Zennor.

As Matthew and Alice were married in June 1838 it can be presumed that the boys were twins BUT it is also possible that one of them was born prior to the marriage.

Also - I checked FreeBMD and Catherine and Christian (dd/o Matthew and Nanny) were Registered at the same time so must also presume to have been twins.

The fact they were baptised a week apart is not totally unusual but a reason could only be guessed at.

I think I have answered everything.