Daniel Michell and Family

[cornishbluebird]

Can anyone help with this family

My friend, Vikki, has this family marrying the Thomas family of Zennor.

Ann Michell born 1861 in Zennor died 1950 Ludgvan married John Thomas 11/6/1887 Zennor.

Ann is the daughter of Daniel Michell and Wilmot nee unknown.

Ann and John had 8 children one of which was a daughter named Elizabeth, Elizabeth was left a photograph from her mother which on the back just said to Elizabeth from mother, the photo was taken in 1905 and is linked below. Myself and Vikki do not know if this is Ann with her Thomas family or her Michell family, can anyone help?

www3.tribalpages.com/tpphotos/fullphotos155/pellowfitzpat_1553932.jpg

[HeatherC]

Hello Cornishbluebird
Cant help you with the photo but it looks like a Daniel Michell married Wilmot Eddy in the September Qtr 1860. GRO ref: Penzance Vol 5c Page 461.
Best regards
HeatherC

[cornishbluebird]

thanks for that much appreciated...

Yeah, i doubt we will ever know which part of my friends family it is. We can only assume, mother is the eldest in the photo!

[Cornish Terrier]

I cannot help with the photo either but I have been having a bit of a look at this family as matter of interest - largely because it involves Zennor.

Ann's father Daniel was baptised at Zennor 23rd August 1823 and was the son of William MICHELL and Charity (nee THOMAS).

William, in turn, was baptised at Zennor 16th May 1802 son of Robert MICHELL and Jane (nee TREWHELLA).

Daniel was buried at Zennor 21st September 1877, age 54, of Kerrow.

In 1861 Daniel was living at Kerrow with his wife Wilmot. Also living with him was his mother Charity who had been widowed seven years previously.

Daniel and Wilmot had five children of whom four survived childhood - Ann (1861), William (1863), Daniel (1864-1865), Wilmot (1865) and Daniel (1868).

But it is 1881 that is the interesting Census at this point.

Kerrow, Zennor

Wilmot MICHELL, head, wid., 49, farmer, Zennor
Elizabeth A NICHOLLS, daur, mar., 24, occupied in house, Zennor
Ann MICHELL, daur, unm., 19, occupied in house, Zennor
William do., son, unm, 18, farmer's son, Zennor
Wilmot do., daur, 15, occupied in house, Zennor
Daniel do., son, 13, scholar, Zennor
Wilmot A NICHOLLS, grandaur, 2, Zennor

The question is - just who was Elizabeth A NICHOLLS and her daughter Wilmot A.

From the OPC:-

Wilmot Ann NICHOLLS was born at Zennor 24th May 1878 and baptised there 30th June 1878 daughter of William and Eliza Ann NICHOLLS of Kerrow.

Elizabeth (Eliza) Ann was not a daughter of Daniel so the next question is - was Wilmot's marriage to Daniel MICHELL a second marriage? or was Elizabeth an illegitimate daughter?

From FreeBMD:-

William NICHOLLS married Eliza Ann EDDY
1877 September Qtr Vol 5c Page 385 Penzance R.D.

And from the OPC:-

William s/o Henry NICHOLLS married Eliza Ann EDDY of Bosigran (no father named) 18th August 1877 at Zennor

And I have just found the answer in the Zennor OPR:-

3 Jul 1858 Eliza Ann c/o [None given] & Wilmot Eddy (Spinster) of Bosigran

Wilmot EDDY was baptised 12th August 1832 at Zennor d/o Thomas and Wilmot.

It seems the THOMAS connections are rampant here!

Thomas EDDY married Wilmot THOMAS 2nd July 1831 at Zennor.

FOR THOMAS RESEARCHERS - HELP!

I cannot find a baptism for Wilmot THOMAS.

She was born at Zennor about 1806/7 and her age is consistent in all Census records I have looked at.

Wilmot was buried at Zennor 27th August 1890 - age 84 of Bosigran.

Anyone know just who her parents were?

On that note I will close.

Any further information required or desired then please let me know.

CT

[gandolf]

CT,

Your post pretty much confirmed my suspicion from a quick glance at the 1851 census - a grand total of 7 Daniel Michell's. Such a small number (and almost all in Zennor) suggested that most if not all of them are related - although I haven't really checked it out.

Two of them are in the same household (father and son). Another is the one mentioned above.

A fourth one is indirectly part of my post in another thread about the pronunciation of the Michell surname.

John Michell (1809 - 1884) was another son of Robert & Jane (nee Trewhella) Michell. John married Jane Matthews in 1840. Jane was the daughter of Kitty (nee Hollow) and Charles Matthews, and granddaughter of Wilmot (nee Quick) and John Hollow.

John and Jane Michell emigrated with their six sons to Victoria, Australia around 1852/53. Settling in the northeast of the state around Beechworth, they were clearly chasing gold.

Jane died in 1854, and several of their six sons died young (aged 25 - 45), four of them apparently without marrying. I can't yet find the death of one, and one made it to the "ripe old age" of 60. Only the two youngest married and had descendants.

[cornishbluebird]

Oct 29, 2008 5:12:39 GMT -5 Cornish Terrier said:

I cannot help with the photo either but I have been having a bit of a look at this family as matter of interest - largely because it involves Zennor.

Ann's father Daniel was baptised at Zennor 23rd August 1823 and was the son of William MICHELL and Charity (nee THOMAS).

William, in turn, was baptised at Zennor 16th May 1802 son of Robert MICHELL and Jane (nee TREWHELLA).

Daniel was buried at Zennor 21st September 1877, age 54, of Kerrow.

In 1861 Daniel was living at Kerrow with his wife Wilmot. Also living with him was his mother Charity who had been widowed seven years previously.

Daniel and Wilmot had five children of whom four survived childhood - Ann (1861), William (1863), Daniel (1864-1865), Wilmot (1865) and Daniel (1868).

But it is 1881 that is the interesting Census at this point.

Kerrow, Zennor

Wilmot MICHELL, head, wid., 49, farmer, Zennor
Elizabeth A NICHOLLS, daur, mar., 24, occupied in house, Zennor
Ann MICHELL, daur, unm., 19, occupied in house, Zennor
William do., son, unm, 18, farmer's son, Zennor
Wilmot do., daur, 15, occupied in house, Zennor
Daniel do., son, 13, scholar, Zennor
Wilmot A NICHOLLS, grandaur, 2, Zennor

The question is - just who was Elizabeth A NICHOLLS and her daughter Wilmot A.

From the OPC:-

Wilmot Ann NICHOLLS was born at Zennor 24th May 1878 and baptised there 30th June 1878 daughter of William and Eliza Ann NICHOLLS of Kerrow.

Elizabeth (Eliza) Ann was not a daughter of Daniel so the next question is - was Wilmot's marriage to Daniel MICHELL a second marriage? or was Elizabeth an illegitimate daughter?

From FreeBMD:-

William NICHOLLS married Eliza Ann EDDY
1877 September Qtr Vol 5c Page 385 Penzance R.D.

And from the OPC:-

William s/o Henry NICHOLLS married Eliza Ann EDDY of Bosigran (no father named) 18th August 1877 at Zennor

And I have just found the answer in the Zennor OPR:-

3 Jul 1858 Eliza Ann c/o [None given] & Wilmot Eddy (Spinster) of Bosigran

Wilmot EDDY was baptised 12th August 1832 at Zennor d/o Thomas and Wilmot.

It seems the THOMAS connections are rampant here!

Thomas EDDY married Wilmot THOMAS 2nd July 1831 at Zennor.

FOR THOMAS RESEARCHERS - HELP!

I cannot find a baptism for Wilmot THOMAS.

She was born at Zennor about 1806/7 and her age is consistent in all Census records I have looked at.

Wilmot was buried at Zennor 27th August 1890 - age 84 of Bosigran.

Anyone know just who her parents were?

On that note I will close.

Any further information required or desired then please let me know.

CT

Thanks Terrier, much appreciated for the above info, i hadn't got round to tackle the Michell family, but now I'm armed with this information i can start expanding this branch of Vikki's family.

In regards to the Mysterious Elizabeth Ann Nicholls, we can confirm that she is an illegitimate daughter of Wilmot?

The Thomas family certainly tried to keep it in the family, stacks of cousins marrying cousins.. lol

[cornishbluebird]

Oct 26, 2008 17:34:41 GMT -5 cornishbluebird said:

Ann and John had 8 children one of which was a daughter named Elizabeth, Elizabeth was left a photograph from her mother which on the back just said to Elizabeth from mother, the photo was taken in 1905 and is linked below. Myself and Vikki do not know if this is Ann with her Thomas family or her Michell family, can anyone help?

www3.tribalpages.com/tpphotos/fullphotos155/pellowfitzpat_1553932.jpg

I'm now wondering if the date 1905 is the date the photograph was given to Elizabeth.

Now i know how many siblings were in the Michell family (4 that survived), i'm wondering if this photo is a photo of Wilmot Michell in the Centre, Ann Michell (mother of Elizabeth) standing next to Wilmot, the two brothers William and Daniel and Wilmot the sister also.

Certainly seems logical to me...

[Cornish Terrier]

As I said I don't think I can really help with the photo but a quick glance at your latest sounds possible.
I will need to re-read this later once my head has cleared.

I have now got the line fairly well sorted out I think but did run into trouble that caused me probably 8-10 hours work.

The problem was that there were two Richard Eddy's involved with one part of the puzzle.

Both were born about the same time in Zennor and both married someone named Elizabeth - one in 1813 and the other in 1814.

The also used similar names for some of their children.

However, I have now got them both right although I am yet to determine the parents of one of them.

The one I think was involved with your Michell family was the son of Matthew and Sarah Eddy.

Apart from the Eddy family being involved there were, of course, the Thomas families and they needed to be sorted also.

For the period from about 1813 onwards I am confident that I have most of the links correct and I am reasonably sure of some earlier links.

Still lots of work to do but I will be happy to help you piece together all the parts you require.

CT