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Post by donne on Nov 2, 2007 12:22:16 GMT -5
HI there, I'm interested in Donne/Dun/Dunne etc and associated families in Camborne, St Erth and Crowan. Earliest BMD reference I have is to a Paskow Dun marrying a Christian Ellis in Camborne (1581), and that family moved to St Erth, producing a sheaf of 17th century wills. I believe that my branch of the family moved to Crowan circa 1720.
The record seems to run out prior to 1581 though some Dun's appear in the list of wardens of Camborne parish church.
Any help, encouragement or discussion appreciated!
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Post by Zenobia on Nov 2, 2007 14:18:30 GMT -5
Hi!
I am also a descendant of Pascow Dunn, thru his son William who married Jane Paine.
I take it you descend thru Alexander Dunn and Serpherina Ninnies?
Many of us here who have Hampton or Glasson descent (including Cornish Terrier) also come thru the line from Pascow.
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Post by donne on Nov 2, 2007 17:40:49 GMT -5
Thanks for the welcome.
My descent is from Pascow's youngest surviving son, John, who married Mary Noye in St Erth, 1624. I have been reading with interest your Payne discussion though. Teasing out the relationships is the only way to find a descent through the numerous similarly-named candidates!
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 3, 2007 10:45:04 GMT -5
And G'day from the Cornish Terrier. Not content with Donne (var.) and Paine. Now you have to bring the NOYE family into things. ;D Will catch up on notes through the main threads and do the best I can to help. Have done a bit of work on St Erth but I am lacking access to a lot of information for Camborne and Crowan. Will be very interested in some details of that 'sheaf' of Wills you have mentioned so will try and do some work for you very soon. A little limited with time at the moment due to work and my 'ongoing' move of abode but will be happy to 'get stuck into things' as soon as I am sorted. Welcome to our little gathering. Ian
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Post by donne on Nov 3, 2007 19:52:27 GMT -5
Thank you for the offer of assistance. The wills I mentioned are all in the Cornwall Record Office. The Donne clan in 17th century St Erth produced wills which include:
Pascow Dunn AP/D/323 Christian Donne AP/D/456 Alexander Donne AP/D/750 William Donne AP/D/576 Jane Dunne AP/D/719 Margery Donne AP/D/849 Richard Donne AD/P/613
I have copies of all of these which I have transcribed as best I can, including any associated inventories which I find almost as fascinating as the will itself.
Incidentally, those who are interested in the Dun family may care to look at my newbie posting to the 'Barton of Trewinnard' thread on the St Erth board.
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Post by white on Nov 4, 2007 8:34:23 GMT -5
Hi Noweth, Paskow and Christiana Dun were also ancestors of mine. I have copies of their wills and have put transcripts on West Penwith Resources. You mentioned that you have transcripts of more wills for the family. Would it be possible to have copies of these please. Word doc. form as attachments would be great or hard copies which I would be happy to pay for. Roy White ps my line is also John and Marie (Noye)
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 4, 2007 10:19:40 GMT -5
I have just checked my database (should have done it last night : and find that I have John and Mary (Noye) Dunn in my database with five children, including Pascow. It appears son Richard married a Margery Christopher, sister of William Christopher whose Will was written February 1671 and proved March 1671 at St Erth. Margery Christopher seems to have been previously married to John Taubin at St Erth in 1650 and he was buried at St Erth in 1654/5. Margery then, I believe, married Richard Donne - although I have not yet located the marriage. I am reasonably sure it is this Richard Donne who was buried at St Erth in 1665. William Christopher's Will mentioned 'cosins' James and John Donne and also an unnamed deceased brother-in-law whom I have read as being Richard given there was no other family in St Erth at that time which included James and John Donne. And I am with Roy here as far as requesting information from those Wills you have. If I may - could you also copy this information as Word documents and send them via email please. You will find my email address in the 'Members' Section. Other than that I will try to help out with any other information you are looking for. Ian
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 4, 2007 11:10:57 GMT -5
So this would be the bloke I have in my database 'unattached' but who married Sephronia at St Erth in 1619/20. Reading through notes again I find that Zenobia has supplied a maiden name of 'Ninnies' for Sephronia. Would like to know where that information came from Zenobia and I am presuming it must have been from a Will or other similar document. The name of Alexander Dun's wife is not named in P&T but I had determined the probability that she was Sephronia from a 1674 burial at St Erth (ux of Alexander) followed in 1677 by the burial of Alexander himself. A number of other 'Dunn' (var.) people were buried at St Erth in the early half of the 17th Century including children of William and also of Edward. Would like to know where these people belong in the scheme of things. And I 'presume' that the Christian Dunne buried 23rd October 1642 was the wife of Paskow. Look forward to discussing more of this family so that I might 'tidy up' a little more of the St Erth families and see if some of it might help with my own.
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Post by trencrom on Nov 4, 2007 21:12:26 GMT -5
Hello donne -- is yours the family that has been described in articles in the last two editions of the CFHS journal?
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Post by donne on Nov 5, 2007 5:37:24 GMT -5
I own up to the articles in the CFHS magazine. Since I wrote though other snippets of information have come to light. As a result of the first, a correspondent pointed me towards the Henderson Calendar which is quoted above. Just when you think there is nothing more to be found, another nugget comes to light!
I'll get around to sending off the will transcripts to those who have asked. Give me a few days, though. Since I did the original work I've been on a palaeography day school at my local county archives, and I may have a better shot at those difficult words. Would pdf be a better format than MS Word? I like to keep the shape of the original document as much as possible (line length and layout) and pdf ensures that it doesn't get mangled. It's a smaller file as well.
I'm not sure that there is actual proof that Alexander Donne married Sepharonia Nennys - it's just where the balance of probabilities lie. We know that Alexander's wife was a Sepharonia, a very unusual name. The only baptism of a Sepharonia (or something very like that) we can find is that of John Nennys' daughter on 5 Feb 1595/96; Alexander's marriage took place 17 Jan 1619/20. So the name is right, the age is about right, so it's probably her.
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Post by white on Nov 5, 2007 9:51:06 GMT -5
Hi Roger, Yes please pdf would be great, Roy Also where do you go in descent from John and Marie (Noye). I have their son, John married to Unknown and then their daughter, Mary, marrying Humfrye Morlye 14 jan 1669/70 and then on down the Morley line. Roy
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 5, 2007 12:59:33 GMT -5
pdf would suit me also, particularly if the formatting is intact and, most of all, it is easiest for you.
The more information the better possibly help me find some new links for my Trewhella family but I will work on whatever is sent in my direction to see if I might be able to glean any more clues to other links.
Ian
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Post by Zenobia on Nov 5, 2007 15:34:48 GMT -5
I'm not sure that there is actual proof that Alexander Donne married Sepharonia Nennys - it's just where the balance of probabilities lie. We know that Alexander's wife was a Sepharonia, a very unusual name. The only baptism of a Sepharonia (or something very like that) we can find is that of John Nennys' daughter on 5 Feb 1595/96; Alexander's marriage took place 17 Jan 1619/20. So the name is right, the age is about right, so it's probably her. The will of Pascow Donne mentions: "deed for tenement of Porthcollome by Alexander Dunn, dated 28 October 1625." Lives on the deed are Margaret w/o John Ennys, James their son and Sepheronya wife of Alexander Donn. It seems pretty apparent that "John Ennys" is John Ninnis and he and Margaret are the parents of the other two lives on the deed, James and Sepheronya. This fits with the chr. of Sepherace Ninnes to John in 1595/6. For a little bit of extra evidence, Alexander and his wife named their first daughter Margaret. Of course, the fact that Sepheronia is an unusual names does help quite a bit.
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Post by donne on Nov 5, 2007 19:35:58 GMT -5
This is a reply to Roy (white) about the John Dun/Mary Noye line of descent.
I have their family as 6 children; John, An, Richard, Pascow, William and Samuell. I believe that my line is via William who married Ellinor Penkea (1663), and thence from their eldest son William who married Priscilla Roberts (1690).
I have your Humphrey Murley/ Mary Dunn marriage in my database, with Mary being the daughter of John Dun/Unknown. It's here I have the problem because I have linked the parent John Dun to the William Dun/ Jayne Payne family. I have listed 6 children for the family of William and Jayne: George, John (died in infancy), John, Robert, Paskowe and Christian. It is to the surviving John that I have linked the Murley line. This John is mentioned in Jane Dunne's will (made 1668, proved 1674) as "I give and bequeath to my eldest son John Dunne one shilling when hee shall come to demand itt", so we know he was still living at that time.
I don't really have firm evidence for making the association with William/Jayne, so I'm ready to be persuaded if you think otherwise!
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Post by white on Nov 6, 2007 9:47:03 GMT -5
Reply to Roger. Ho Roger, thanks for your input. The John who married Marie Noye in 1624 could not have been the one born to William and Jane. He was born/bapt. 8th.Feb.1619/20. If you would like to contact me direct I would be happy to send you a word doc. or two with the Dun details. Roy Also I would be very happy to receive your details from William and Priscilla.
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