Peter (Petrus) Quick of Gulval

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Hello again

Have been delving again and I came across a copy of a will for a certain Robert Matthew written 1749 and proved 1762. After a little research I surmised that he married Elizabeth LEAH in Paul in June 1695. They had 9 or so children between the years of 1696 and 1721. Among them was daughter Ann MATTHEW bap 9th Nov 1707 at Paul.

OK, so in the will of Robert he leaves one milch cow to his grandson Matthew QUICK once he reaches the age of 21 years. (Glad nobody gave me a cow for my 21st??!!). ;D, and it is noted that Matthew would have been older than 21 when Robert finally popped his clogs

In Paul on the 7th October 1727 Peter QUICK married Ann MATTHEW and it is most likely that this Matthew was their son. As I have said before I am fascinated by the Peter QUICKs in so much that they are an uncommon christian name in the QUICK family and they tend to be spread over at least a few of the families.

My guess as to who this Peter is, I think he is the Petrus QUICK who was baptised at Gulval on the 7th August 1703 - not too far from Paul??. Peter was the son of Richard QUICK of Ludgvan and his wife Alice WILLIAMS and brother of John (Johannes) and Constantia.

So, next I checked my meagre baptisms and I found three for a father named Peter. They were Peter bapt 1728 in Paul, Matthew bapt 1739 in Ludgvan & Robert bapt 1743 in Ludgvan - lots of gaps eh?

Would appreciate your comments before I rush away and add them to my family history software called LEGACY which, like yours, I have found extremely useful.

Lannanta

[Cornish Terrier]

You have things exactly as I do. ;D

Except for one thing.

I don't believe I have a copy of that particular Will so would, like the Andrew Quick one, like the details if I may.

Here is a little to add to your new little family.

Peter's father, Richard, was apparently married twice.

John HICKS, of St Ives, gent., Mayor of St Ives was, as far as I have been able to ascertain, married four times. (Sucker for punishment. ;D)

From his first marriage to Ann LAKES he had three children of whom the second was Ann.

Ann HICKS bp. 10th February 1667 St Ives
m. 28th September 1693 Zennor
Robert ROBINS, of Blisland, gent.

(No burial found for Robert Robins yet.)

Richard QUICK (probably son of John and Elizabeth)
m. 27th June 1697 Towednack
Ann ROBINS, widow

Ann QUICK, wife of Richard, buried 17th September 1697 Gulval

Richard QUICK, of Gulval
m. 8th February 1697 St Buryan
Alice WILLIAMS

I believe Alice was daughter of John and Constance Williams and was baptised 31st October 1671 at St Buryan.

Although Richard was not recorded as a widower at this marriage he was, to my knowledge, the only Richard Quick with any dealings at Gulval at the time.

Richard wrote his Will 5th July 1719 and it was proved 14th September 1719 at which time he appears to have been at Ludgvan.

Richard Quick, Ludgvan yeoman

written - 5-Jul 1719
proved - 1719-1720
pages - 375/376

sons - John, Peter
daughter - Constance Quick
wife - Alice
brother-in-law - Ralph Williams
witnesses - John Williams, John Quick

Alice' brother Ralph was baptised 25th August 1666 at St Buryan.

But perhaps more interesting, in line with the title of this thread, is the name of the younger brother of Alice:-

PETER Williams bp. 19th October 1673 at St Buryan.

CT

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CT

I do not have the full will, just a copy of the summary found on the website - crocat.cornwall.govt.uk.

It reads:

Title: Copy will and probate of Robert Matthews, yeoman of Paul
Date: 6 Mar 1749, proved 17 May 1762
Description: to son Richard Matthews, one shilling to sons and daughters, one shilling each to grandson George Matthews, one milch cow at age of twenty one to grandson Matthew Quick, one milch cow at age of twenty one to other grandchildren, one shilling each residue, including lands in Paul, to son Benjamin Matthews, executor.

Good call on Peter WILLIAMS. It will be interesting to finally see how the other Peters fit into the picture.

Lannanta

[Cornish Terrier]

I only have five Peter Quicks in my database and I have seen no sign of any perpetuityof the name.

The first was the illegitimate son of Beaton Quick bn/bu 1702 at St Ives and his name could have come from the father.

Then there was the one we have just discussed who married Ann Matthews and named a son Peter who married Mary Hockin at Phillack in 1751.

I have only found two children for him - Ann at Gwithian in 1753 and John at Paul in 1755.

Then there is Peter Baragwanath Quick s/o Richard and Jane (Baragwanath) who married at St Hilary in 1781 and his nme very likely came from the Baragwanath side of the family.

The last one is Peter Bryant Quick bp. 185 St Ives son of John Quick and Alice Nichols (nee Smith).
He died in 1924 and is buried at Barnoon and I would think it likely his name came from a Bryant connection although I am yet to find that particular connection.

All I know just now.

Just about time for some sleep so will no doubt catch up again after work.

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CT

I pretty much agree, just to add that Beaton's illegitimate son who you say died as a baby, was buried 17th September 1702 at St Ives.

Maybe a correction - Peter Baragwanath baptised in 1781, not married, born at St Ives, lived at Trevalgan (1841, 1851 census), and was well reported to have thumped one of his Quick relations at some time.

Lannanta

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CT

OOPS - sorry mate - the marriage was Peters parents Richard and Jane - haste makes waste - sorry about that

Lannanta

[Cornish Terrier]

Peter Baragwanath Quick died 18th November 1853 (Towednack MI's.)

Peter Baragwanath Quick buried at Towednack, age 71, of St Ives (Hobson Matthews).

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CT

You may be aware of the following:

Then there was the one we have just discussed who married Ann Matthews and named a son Peter who married Mary Hockin at Phillack in 1751.

I have only found two children for him - Ann at Gwithian in 1753 and John at Paul in 1755.

In 1755 at Gwithian young Ann was buried on the 14th March, Mary the mother was buried on the same day, and the baby John was buried on the 16th March - one hell of a way to lose your whole family eh?

Lannanta

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CT

This is not the first time we have come back to this bloke eh?

Peter Baragwanath Quick died 18th November 1853 (Towednack MI's.)

Peter Baragwanath Quick buried at Towednack, age 71, of St Ives (Hobson Matthews).

I seem to remember the last time we discussed this individual you were undecided on his ancestry but perhaps grandson of Richard QUICK and Elizabeth ROW.

Lannanta

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CT

Pretty smart.

Then there is Peter Baragwanath Quick s/o Richard and Jane (Baragwanath) who married at St Hilary in 1781 and his nme very likely came from the Baragwanath side of the family.

4. PETER BARGWANNETH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 29 APR 1744 Zennor, Cornwall, England

Peter appears to have been Jane's oldest brother.

Lannanta

[Cornish Terrier]

No comments required on the last two notes.

In 1755 at Gwithian young Ann was buried on the 14th March, Mary the mother was buried on the same day, and the baby John was buried on the 16th March - one hell of a way to lose your whole family eh?

Can you tell me when the fast-rail link from Paul to Gwithian was completed.

According to IGI young John was baptised at Paul on the 14th March 1755 - maybe it was the speed that killed him.

There is something wrong here.

First of all I do not have the Burial for Ann in my copy of the Gwithian Transcript (Kathie).

And it is no wonder we cannot find anything more of poor old Peter Quick - he was obviously 'right around the twist' by this time.

On the day he is baptising his son in Paul he is burying his wife and daughter in Gwithian.

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On the day he is baptising his son in Paul he is burying his wife and daughter in Gwithian.

Yes I think that I have made some assumptions that maybe are in error. I assumed that Mary was Peter's wife, perhaps she wasn't. Just seemed to me to be the wife dying in childbirth, so maybe not.

Lannanta

[Cornish Terrier]

There is certainly something strange involved here and I think it may take a bit of sorting out.

I wonder if that IGI entry for the baptism of John could be incorrect?

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CT

Then there was the one we have just discussed who married Ann Matthews and named a son Peter who married Mary Hockin at Phillack in 1751.

I have a copy of the will for Peter senior who appears to have been a cooper on HMS Panther and wrote his will in 1746. It was proved in the Perogative Court of Canterbury in October 1751. Does that mean that he died in 1751 and why would the 'Will' be proven in London - perhaps he died on board ship?

Lannanta

[londoner]

www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/wills.asp

This will take you to an explanation of why wills were proved in different places