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Post by Hichens on Jul 23, 2007 12:02:43 GMT -5
Hi All
I am researching:
Hichens - Madron, Morvah
Lanyon - Madron, Morvah
Holman - St Just
Boyle - Truro
James - Madron
Leggo - Sancreed
Bowden - Phillack, Constantine
Vivian - Phillack, Camborne
I have a specific research problem. My 6xgreat grandfather Richard Hichens married Elizabeth Lanyon in 1739, Morvah. In the marriage register he is recorded as "Richard Hutchens of St Buryan". I suspect that the "Hutchens" spelling is an error and that he was recorded as "of St Buryan" because he was living there at the time, rather than because he was originally from there. I cannot prove this. However, Elizabeth was from a well to do, and respected Madron family, and being an only child, one would expect her to have married into a family of similar standing. I can't find any evidence to show that the Hutchens of St Buryan were of good standing, but there was a Hichens family in Madron (related to the St Ives family) who were of indisputable good standing. I am desperate to find proof one way or t'other of which family my Richard was from.
I you think you can help, please get in touch.
Hichens
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 23, 2007 14:39:52 GMT -5
Hello Hichens - and Welcome to our little gathering.  Only just noticed that you had joined and posted your first query so thought I would take a quick look at things for you before heading off to bed. FIRSTLY - I will give you an answer here but further conversation will need to be moved to one of the relevant Parish Boards. I am sure Zenobia will take care of that but we need to determine the most appropriate place for each of your queries.  I did a bit of work on Morvah a few years ago and used a 'spare copy' of my Morvah Transcripts to work from. Have found the relevant HUTCHINS/LAYNON marriage and note that it is one that I had not hi-lighted. (Meaning that it is not in my database and I could, at the time, find no further information due to lack of resources.) I now have further resources to hand but am still missing some that might prove useful in this case. However - HUTCHENS. I believe the Marriage entry will have been recorded correctly and also spelt correctly. Having just checked through some St Buryan information I found numerous HUTCHENS burials there between 1700 and 1800. One of those burials was:- Elizabeth HUTCHENS, widow buried 15th January 1779 aged 81 This is interesting as, if near accurate, it would place this persons birth at about 1697/8. 6th March 1697 ELIZABETH d/o David and Margaret LANYON was baptised at SANCREED This, of course, would make 1739 a rather late marriage from which there may possibly have been no children. More information about your Elizabeth is going to be required before I can do much more. I am in little doubt that the name 'HUTCHENS' is correct and that the St Buryan connection is also correct. If you can give me something more to work with I will be happy to help you pursue it. Will hear from you soon. Good Luck and we will do our best to help. Your remaining interests can be posted in, as you decide, the most appropriate section of the Board and they will be looked after also. Cornish Terrier |
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Post by Zenobia on Jul 23, 2007 21:38:28 GMT -5
Welcome Hitchens! Why don't you drop some more info in a new thread on the Morvah board (since that is where the couple in question married), and we can proceed from there. Looking forward to you contributions. (At least one set of the early Morvah Lanyons connects with my Edwards of Lelant family!  ) |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 24, 2007 8:23:25 GMT -5
As there is nothing yet started in any other Board I will post this brief bit of information here which can also be transferred.
Just did a search of IGI for Richard HUTCHENS and found the following:-
NOTE:- as this is from IGI I would consider some caution.
Richard HUTCHENS bn. 1707 St Ives s/o John HUTCHENS & Jane LANYON (Richard apparently died 1776)
Richard HUTCHINGS bp. 6th August 1699 St Buryan s/o Bernard HUTCHINGS & Rebecka
Richard HUTCHINS bp. 3rd May 1714 St Buryan s/o William HUTCHINS & Margaret
This is all I could find that might be a match.
Given my previous posting regarding Elizabeth Lanyon I might suggest that the 1699 man might have been involved there.
Please move all further discussion to the Thread you seem most appropriate and I look forward to working on this a little further with you there.
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Post by mnauen on Sept 19, 2007 23:43:20 GMT -5
Hello there. I am descended from a James in Madron My GGGreat grandfather was Henry James Married Mary Daniel I believe but may be wrong. I also have a bit of information on the Leggo fam,ily from all over. Who do you have from this family?
Miriam N
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Sept 20, 2007 8:44:05 GMT -5
Miriam - Would appreciate if you could give me some further information of your link back to the marriage of Henry James and Mary Daniel including date and place of events, particularly the 19th Century information.
Date and place of this marriage would also be useful along with some detail on children.
From there I will attempt to track the family through the Census and other records that I have available or have access to.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Sept 20, 2007 9:26:54 GMT -5
I have now transferred all discussion regarding the HUTCHENS (HICHENS) & LANYON query to the MORVAH THREAD. Please go there to continue. |
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Post by mnauen on Sept 21, 2007 1:47:33 GMT -5
Henry James, Ag Lab. married Mary Daniel28 Nov 1796 in Madron. He was buried 8 Jan 1832 Madron. I think she was buried 3 Jun 1835 but there were two Mary James buried close together. Henry and Mary were living at 'Luthergwearne' near Haemoor when they died. The children were William 1797, Marey 1800, Elizabeth 1802, Ann 1807 Henry 11 Nov 1809, bapt 21 Nov 1809. This from a family bible. Henry2 married Alice Mann 5 Mar 1816 Paul. She was the daughter of John Mann and Jane Oliver. Henry and Alice farmed at Bellowal Farm in
southern Paul. Their eldest son Henry married Ann Maddern Jeffery. I am descended from Henry 3 and Ann' second son, 4th child John Jeffery James. Both he and his older brother William came to Australia. If you want the lot I can send you a large email copy. Miriam N
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Sept 21, 2007 7:09:30 GMT -5
Miriam - an email copy would be very handy, thank you. Meanwhile I will try to take a bit of a look at things based on your latest information and see what I can add. |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Sept 21, 2007 8:52:25 GMT -5
I have taken a look through available information and pieced together a good deal of the family so I will be looking forward to comparing notes. As for the burial of Mary James (nee Daniel) in 1835 - I agree that it was she buried 3rd June 1835. She and Henry were both of Luthargwearne at the time of their deaths whilst the other Mary James was 'of Churchtown'. The most likely baptism I can find for Henry, so far, is 17th July 1768 at Madron as son of Mary James. Mary Daniel may be bp. 24th April 1774 at Madron d/o Matthew Daniel. Have a couple more things to check before moving on to other queries. However, I suggest it is about time to think about moving this conversation to a more appropriate section of the Board. Will leave that to Zenobia to decide. |
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