Hosking....now Suffolk

[matt30462]

Hello everyone, I am a Hosking, obviously of Cornish stock. I am currentlt plotting my heritage and have made a little headway on my fathers side, which leads me to Phillack, Hayle, Redruth, Cambourne. If anyone out there can help me, it would be much appreciated. I already know there are zillions of Hoskings, so I will also list some maiden names and locations.

My father was Raymond Arthur Hosking born 1928 in ConnorDowns, his father John Henry b 1885ish married to Janie Richards. John Henry's father was William Henry 1854ish from Copperhouses married to Angelina Northey 1851 Ventonleague. Her parents Peter 1806 and Elizabeth.
I have a few more names but these are the vital ones, if you can help please, please let me know.

[Cornish Terrier]

Welcome to our forum.

Do you have anything more specific on any of these names by any chance?

May not be able to do anything tonight due to other research problems but will certainly take a look asap.

Should be able to start tracking them through the Census records all of which I currently have access to.

I also have Parish Register Transcripts for each Parish mentioned except Redruth so should be able to learn more there for you.

Please let me know anything more you can and I will see what I can find out for you.

[white]

Here for starters.
1861 at Ventonleague,
Peter Northy aged 56 born Phillack copper miner
Elizabeth aged 55 born Phillack Domestic
Hannah aged 16 born Phillack work in copper mine
Catherine aged 14 born Phillack work in copper mine
Angelina aged 10 born Phillack
From the IGI Angelina bapt.10th. JUne 1852 at Phillack
Catherine 14th, mar.1847
James 20th.mar 1836
James 20th.nov.1842
Mary 27th.oct.1833
Anna (Hannah) 23rd. mar 1845
Elizabeth 20th.mar 1836
Peter 20th.may 1836
Again from the IGI
Peter Northy married Elizabeth Prubertley 6th.mar.1831 Phillack
Peter Northy bapt.18th.june 1805 Phillack, parents Robert Northy and Amey.
Robert Northy married Amey Blight 01st. may 1803 Phillack
1871 census Ventonleague, Phillack
Peter Northy 66
Elizabeth 65
Angelina 20
Family wrongly transcribed as Worthy.
1891 census Copperhouse Foundry estate
William Hosking aged 37 born Phillack General labourer
Angelina aged 35 born Phillack
Angelina (dau) aged 14 born Phillack
Eliza M. aged 12 born Phillack
William P. aged 9 born Phillack
John H. aged 6 born Phillack
1901 census at Ventonleague
William H. Hosking aged 47 farm labourer
Angelina aged 48
John H. aged 16 dynamite works labourer.
and next door,
John Northy aged 51 gen.lab. born Hayle
Jane (wife) aged 58 born St.Erth
Elizabeth M. aged 23 (dau) born Swansea
Polly aged 11 (dau) born Hayle
I hope that this is some help

[white]

Another snippet,
William Henry Hosking married Angelina Northey 21st.feb.1874 at Phillack.
There is quite a lot of info. at Phillack Genukia

[white]

Yet more form the 1881 census at Ventonleague
William Hosking 27
Angelina 30
Angelina 4
Eliza Mary 2
Peter Northey 76
Elizabeth Northey 75

[white]

Possible Hoskin family 1861 census at Ventonleague
Spelt Hoskin but this is quite normal
Richard Hoskin aged 50 Miller and Grocer born Lelant
Caroline 44 Phillack
Grace Ann 16 Phillack
Sarah 12 Phillack
William 9 Phillack
James 7 Phillack
Richard 4 Phillack
Samuel 2 Phillack
Richard Hoskin married Caroline Donithorne 27th.june.1843 at Phillack. HIs Father William Hosken, Caroline Father James Donithorne
Be prepared for various spellings of Hoskin. Hosken, Hosking, or even Hocking

[matt30462]

Wow! thanks White and Terrier. I had hoped to get a little information but never this much and so quickly. Let's see, what do I know and what do I need. My starting point was of course my father, Raymond Arthur Hosking. I obtained a copy of his birth certificate stating my Grandfather was John Henry Hosking and my grandmother Janie Richards. I know the family home in 1928 was Connordowns, Gwithian. I only have patchy details of my Aunts and Uncles from this period, I know there was Freda, Francis, Angina and Lawrence, I also believe there to be others I don't know the names of. From here on, it's been guess work and suposition, mainly gleaned from access to internet census entries and BMD records. I need parish records to be certain. The details as I see them are as follows but of course could be incorrect.
John Henry Hosking b1885 m Janie Richards (no family details)
Raymond Arthur1928
Freda ?
Lawrence ?
Angelina ?
Francis ?
William Henry Hosking b1854 m Angelina Northey (presumably where the known Angelina's name came from)
Angelina 1877
Eliza Mary 1879
William P 1882
Thomas C 1892
and John H of course.
Peter Northey 1806 m Elizabeth Pruberthy 1805
Mary Ann 1832
Elizabeth 1835
Anna Jane (pos Hannah) 1845
Catherine 1847
Angelina 1851
That's it, I hope you can understand the details and hope you can help some more. Especially the later names, those of my Uncles and Aunts.
I eagerly await your replies.

[Cornish Terrier]

My turn to add a little, I think.

Firstly there is one correction:-

Peter NORTHEY m. Elizabeth PENBERTHY 6th March 1831 at Phillack

(NOTE Elizabeth's surname!)

ALL events below occurred at PHILLACK unless otherwise stated.

Based on his age during the Census I place William Henry Hosking's birth at about 1853/4 in which case:-

William Henry Hosking bp. 18th September 1853 s/o John (labourer) and Jane of Ventonleague

Possible marriage for John and Jane:-

2nd March 1839 John HOSKIN, age 29, labourer of Copperhouse, s/o Thomas HOSKIN, husbandman
Married
Jane OLIVER, age 23 of Copperhouse, d/o John Oliver, labourer
Witnesses:- James Oliver, Thomas Blewett

The line-up of children for John and Jane now looks like this:-

John HOSKING bp. 28th July 1829 s/o John (labourer) and Jane of Trevassack

Thomas HOSKING bp. 15th May 1842 s/o John (labourer) and Jane of Copperhouse

Elizabeth HOSKING bp. 8th September 1844 d/o John (labourer) and Jane of Copperhouse

James HOSKING bp. 13th September 1846 s/o John (labourer) and Jane of Copperhouse

Mary Jane HOSKING bp. 28th July 1850 d/o John (labourer) and Jane of Lethleans

William Henry HOSKING bp. 18th September 1853 s/o John (labourer) and Jane of Ventonleague

Maria Jane HOSKING bp. 23rd December 1855 d/o John (labourer) and Jane of Ventonleague

James Oliver HOSKING bp. 22 November 1858 (born 24th July) s/o John (labourer) and Jane of Ventonleague

BURIALS

Mary Jane HOSKING, age 2, of Trevassack 14th April 1852
James HOSKING, age 10, of Copperhouse 22nd July 1856

** Let's call this the end of Installment Number One **

Will post now as I don't want to risk having a problem and losing it all.

[white]

From free BMD
John Henry Hosking married Janie Richards June quarter 1908 at Redruth. You should be able to get the certificate and this will give you Janies Fathers name.
Regarding the later people (aunts etc) this is much more difficult as post 1901 details are sparse. You will have to rely on family info. for answers there.
I have a possible Janie Richards, but must stress only possible, so you will need the mariage certificate to verify it.
1901 census at 5, Market St., Camborne.
John Richards aged 56 born St.Ives, Inn proprietor
Margaret J. aged 55 born St.Ives
Matthew aged 27 born St.Ives
Janie aged 17 born St.Ives
This Janie is the only one I could find in 1901 of a suitable age etc.
Remember the following useful sites,
Free BMD
Cornwall online census
West Penwith Resources
Family search org.
All of great use

On the 1881 census,
John Richards aged 36 Tin miner
Margaret J. aged 34
John aged 11
Matthew aged 8
All born St.Ives.
From parish records.
John (aged 11 above) born 30th.mar 1869. bapt.21st.apr.1869
Margaret Cocking born 8th.sept 1870. bapt.23rd.sept.
Matthew born 18th.apr.1873. bapt.16th.may
Samuel born 8th.feb.1875 bapt.12 th. apr.
Edith Pemberthy 14th.nov.1876. bapt 21st. feb.1877
All of these children of John and Margaret Jane (above)
Interesting the naming of a daughter as Margaret Cocking Richards.
Following the theory that it could be Margaret Jane surname (Cocking) found the following on Free bmd
Margaret Jane T. Cocking married John Richards dec. quarter 1868 at Penzance.
On the 1861 census at Island Road, St.Ives
John Cocking aged 55 Fisherman
Eliza aged 45 (wife)
John aged 22 Shipwright
Eliza aged 15
Margaret J. aged 10
Kate aged 8
William aged 2
All born at ST.Ives
Again from the Family search org.
John Cocking born 06th.aug 1806 at St.Ives
died 8th.aug 1893
Married Eliza Noall
she born 22nd. mar.1816 at St.Ives bapt 14th.apr
died 13th.july 1864
Eliza was the daughter of Matthew Noall and Jane Cogar
John Cooking was the son of Thomas Cocking and Margery.
If you have not got a program on your pc to record all of the info. download PAF (Personal Ancestry File) from Family Search Org. If you do not find out how to do so let me know and I will give you the method.
Sorry if the info above is a little out of order but is as found and you should be able to work out the details.

[white]

Yet another snippett
Go to the site mentioned,
Family Search Org. and on the opening page put in Eliza Noall 1816 and you will find an ancestral file that goes back quite a way. Obviously it must be substantiated with the original documents, but should be agood starter.
I have found the majority of the details on the IGI for Cornwall to be good (in my experience)

[Cornish Terrier]

2nd Installment

Firstly a correction:-

First son of John and Jane (John) was baptised 1839 and not 1829. (Sorry!)

1841 Census

Phillack - Trevaport(?)

John OLIVER, 63, labourer
Thomas do., 30, labourer
John HOSKEN, 30, labourer
Jane do., 20
John do., 2

1851 Census

Phillack - Copperhouse

John HOSKING, head, mar., 40, ironfounder's labourer, Camborne
Jane do., wife, mar., 34, Phillack
John do., son, 11, boiler maker's labourer, Phillack
Thomas do., son, 9, farm labourer, Phillack
Elizabeth do., daur, 7, scholar, Phillack
James do., son, 4, Phillack
Mary Jane do., daur, 11 mths, Phillack
Thomas OLIVER, lodger, 40, pilot, Phillack

** We now know that John was born at Camborne about 1810 **
** We also know that Jane was born at Phillack about 1816 and was daughter of John Oliver **

PHILLACK
Jenny OLIVER bp. 27th November 1815 d/o John (labourer) and Elizabeth of Churchtown

CAMBORNE
John HOSKIN (Hosking) bp. 14th February 1809 s/o William and Margaret

John HOSKING bp. 18th March 1809 s/o James and Elizabeth**

John HOSKING bp. 15th July 1809 s/o Walter and Christian

John HOSKIN bp. 4th February 1812 s/o John and Mary**

The two marked ** would be the more likely I should think.

1861 Census

Phillack - C___is ? Copper Co. Farm Yard

John HOSKING, head, mar., 50, genl. labourer, Phillack
Jane do., wife, mar., 44, Phillack
Thomas do., son, unm., 19, genl. labourer, Phillack
Elizth do., daur, unm., 17, Phillack
Willm H do., son, 7, scholar, Phillack
Mary J do., daur, 5, scholar, Phillack
James O do., son, 3,, Phillack

** NOTE - John now states he was born at Phillack.

Possible baptisms at PHILLACK for John:-

John HOSKING bp. 15th June 1808 s/o John and Ann

1871 Census

Phillack - Cottage St Factory

John HOSKEN, head, mar., 60, ag. lab. Phillack
Jane do., wife, mar., 55, Phillack
Mary Jane do., daur, unm., 15, Phillack
James Oliver do., son, 12, ag. servant, Phillack
Annie do., grandaughter, 3, Devonport

1881 Census

Phillack - Copper House Yd.

John HOSKING, head, mar., 70, chipping labourer (FOR), Camborne
Jane do., wife, mar., 65, Phillack
Mary J do., daur, unm., 25, Phillack
Jas O do., son, unm., 22, labourer, Phillack
Annie do., g'daur, 13, Morris Town, Devon

1891 Census

Phillack - Ventonleague

John HOSKING, head, mar., 80, general labourer, Phillack
Jane do., wife, mar., 75, Phillack


So John and Jane were still kicking in 1891 - but must surely have not lasted too much longer.

Phillack Burials

Jane HOSKING, age 76, of Copperhouse 12th May 1891
William Peter Northey HOSKING, age 14, of Trevassack 21st November 1895

I am so far unable to find a burial for John up until the end of 1899 at Philack but it is possible he could have lived into his 90's.

Best close this one now and allow you to digest it and respond.

Will try and do more for you once I get your response.

CT

[matt30462]

You people are good! I suppose a little local knowledge helps but I get dizzy with all these dates and names. I think I'll print off the latest posts ane see about entering them into my tree. Another thing I must thank you all for are the extremely useful websites you are providing me with. Thanks again one and all.

[matt30462]

It's been a while since I have made any real advances but a few names have fallen into place. At least I do know some details of one of my Uncles now. He was Francis H Hosking b 1922- d 1995. I also know, he was married more than once, one wife being Doreen Matthews m 18/08/1951. Doreen died in 1998, they had a son named Christopher in 1952. I would be a cousin to Christopher and would much like to make contact if anyone can help.
Anyway, once again I throw my puzzle out to the good folk of this site in the hope of your usual good work.

If you frequent this site Sue, many thanks for this information.

[londoner]

Having trouble finding births for your aunts/uncle.
The only Freda Hosking I can find was b 1905 Penzance (before John Henry & Janie married)
The only Angelina was b 1914 & d 1915 but her mother's maiden name was Trathen. There was an earlier Angelina Audrey b 1903,mother's name is not given for births pre 1911ish.

no sign of a Lawrence in the right area. However I did find the following with mother's maiden name Richards:
Phyllis b Penzance 1918, Emmeline b Redruth 1925 and Sydney G b Helston 1926
I have no idea if these are of any relevance you would need birth/baptism details to confirm.

Maybe one of our colleagues can come up with more information
Good luck with the search

[Cornish Terrier]

Not much I can offer at the moment on this one but having just taken a look through the latest notes I might make one suggestion.

'Freda' - it is possible she cannot be found because her real name was not actually Freda but simply a name she became known by.

WINIFRED is one possibility that should definitely be considered as it is a name that could be shortened to either 'Winnie' or 'Freda'.

FREDERIKA is another slim possibility also.

Just remember that if you are looking for 'Jane' don't forget 'Jennifer' (var.) and if you are looking for 'Polly' most certainly remember to look for 'Mary'.

I will try and get back to this one a little later but right now have a bit of catching up to do.

Ian