Quick of Wicka

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Hi Ian

Getting there slowly.

I have moved to John Quick of Wicka who was born around 1710 or so. His memorial is in the Zennor Church, died in 1784, husband of Wilmot - married ?? Could you please tell me which family this John belonged to?

Regards

Allen

[Cornish Terrier]

Allen - this one is reasonably easy.

John Quick bp. 23rd June 1711 (OS) Zennor was the son of John Quick and Anne (nee VIBERT)

John married Wilmot QUICK at Towednack 5th January 1741 (OS) and died at Zennor 12th September 1784.
He was buried at Zennor 14th September 1784.

John was named in the Will of his brother William which was written in 1771 and proved 1772.

He had three children - Wilmot (m. James Eve), Ann (m. Dionysius Williams) and Mary (m1. John Quick, m2. James Quick).

John's wife, Wilmot, was the daughter of Paul Quick and Wilmot (nee CURNOW) and was baptised at Towednack 24th September 1720.

Wilmot died at Zennor 20th July 1761 and was buried there on the 22nd of July.

John's father (John) married Ann VIBERT at Gulval 11th November 1706 and was buried at Zennor 14th January 1745.

John, in turn, was son of John Quick and Jane (nee MORRISH) who married at Gulval 30th April 1680.

And here is one of my confusions - this last John wrote his Will 7th August 1732.

BUT - on this same day there was the burial of another John QWICK at Zennor.

John (direct line here) was the son of James Quick and Jane (nee KNIGHT).

Back to John and Wilmot Quick for a moment.

From all information I have (including Wills and information from other people) John had a sister named Jane for whom we have no baptism.

But it appears probable that this was the Jane Quick who married James TREWHELLA at Ludgvan 8th August 1729.

Jane was buried at Zennor 25th April 1730 after which James TREWHELLA was married twice more.

James second wife was Susanna Fleming whom he married at Madron in 1733. (She was buried at Ludgvan in 1754)

His third wife was Catherine ODGERS (a widow) (nee TREWHEELA).

It appears that the only children of James TREWHELLA were by his third wife - as evidenced by his Will of 1764 in which he named those children as well as the children of his then wife Catherine who died in 1811.

James was baptised in 1696 so was about 27 years older than Catherine when they married.

Hope I haven't confused you.

Ian

[brianterry]

Quick family
I believe James Quick married Jane Roberts Knighte on 13 Oct 1649. Their son John b1655 in Zennor and died in St Ives 7 Sep 1741 married Jane Morrish 30 April 1680 in Gulval.
james was my 8th great grandfather.
I have not followed the family beyond John and Jane's daughter Mary b 29 Mar 1685 in St ives
She married Robert Uren.Their son Robert married Jane Tricot and their daughter Hester Married John Carthew whose daughter Mary married Thomas Hosking my 3rd great grandfather.

[Cornish Terrier]

Their son John b1655 in Zennor and died in St Ives 7 Sep 1741

I would be interested in the source of this information please.

There are only three burials at St Ives in September 1741:-

1st September Thomas Langny (a young man of St Agnes)
18th September Christian Dennis widow
29th September Thomas Francis

On 7th September 1741 at ZENNOR there was a burial for a JAMES QUICK

I have not followed the family beyond John and Jane's daughter Mary b 29 Mar 1685 in St ives
She married Robert Uren.

This is NOT correct!

Mary daughter of John and Jane Quick was married to William HAMBLY and is mentioned as such in her father's Will.

Will of John Quick of St Ives - Proved 26th April 1733 at St Ives

I give and bequeath unto my loving wife Jane Quick one milch cow together with the keeping or leasing of the same on my estate in Hendra

I give unto my three daughters Jane Hambly, Mary Hambly and Elizabeth Thomas five pounds apiece of like lawful money to be paid to each of them in three years next after my decease.

Having checked back through my database I have found the likely solution to this problem.

William Quick of Zennor (son of James and Jane) wrote a Will dated 19th February 1698 and proved 18th January 1699.

Amongst the children mentioned in this Will was a daughter MARY.

The bequests in the Will were written in such a way as to indicate the possibility that each child was to receive their inheritance at age 25 and from this I have deduced a possible year of birth for Mary of 1686.

William's youngest son, Gabriel, was baptised at St Ives.

And sons Edward and Richard baptised their children at St Ives and were also buried there.

With these sibling links I consider it likely that the wife of Robert UREN was Mary daughter of William and Elizabeth QUICK of Zennor.

CT

[Cornish Terrier]

I have not followed the family beyond John and Jane's daughter Mary b 29 Mar 1685 in St ives
She married Robert Uren.Their son Robert married Jane Tricot and their daughter Hester Married John Carthew whose daughter Mary married Thomas Hosking my 3rd great grandfather.

I have just done a little 'follow-up' work on this family and I have to say now that I find your links via the UREN family extremely tenuous.

Robert UREN and Mary QUICK had five children baptised at St Ives between 1716 and 1726.
All were baptised as children of Robert and Mary except Eleanor whose mother was also recorded as Eleanor.

With no marriage for a Robert Uren to Eleanor it appears this may be another case of an error in the register.

Mary wife of Robert Uren was buried at St Ives 29th May 1740
ROBERT son of Robert Uren widower was buried at St Ives 1st June 1740

This is the Robert you claim to have married Jane Tiscot.

The marriage of Robert UREN and Jane TRISCOT occurred at ST ISSEY 19th November 1743

Esther daughter of Robert and Jane Uren was baptised at Gwinear 9th September 1750

It appears the first child of Robert and Jane must be the following:-

Elizabeth d/o Robert and Jane Urin bp. 10th February 1744 Gwithian

But this is the only child I can find so far prior to Esther in 1750.

I am not sure now just where 'your' Robert Uren belongs.

But it appears he could not have been the son of Robert and Mary of St Ives given that Robert was buried in 1740 two days after his mother.

BTW - Eleanor daughter of Robert Uren was buried at St Ives 9th January 1750.

CT

[gthebutch]

In my records, "Wicka" is spelt "Wicca" Could this be an old english spelling for Wicka or a misspelling somewhere over time?
I, too, am researching James Quick who died in 1773. He was married to Jane and had three sons and three daughters.
Can anyone help with birth and death dates for this family?

[Cornish Terrier]

Welcome to another new member!

I, too, am researching James Quick who died in 1773. He was married to Jane and had three sons and three daughters.

You have me a little confused here.

If you are referring to the James Quick who married Jane Knight als Roberts then he was buried in 1704!

I have no record in my database of a James Quick dying in 1773 and the only other James I have whose first wife was named Jane was not born until 1760.

Again - if you are referring to James Quick and Jane Knight then there were actually eight children of whom five were sons.

If you could clarify things a little it would help us to help you with research on this family.

CT

[gthebutch]

Sorry. I typed the incorrect date of death. The James Quick in my record died 1703 and was probably buried 1704 is the James I'm researching. I only have his wife's name as Jane with three sons and three daughters. If there are other children, I would love to know.
Hope that clarifies the issue.

[Cornish Terrier]

Not a problem - we all have problems with 'typos' from time to time.

As far as is known we have the following:-

James QUICKE married Jane KNIGHT alias ROBERTE 13th October 1649 Zennor

Jane outlived James and she is most likely the Jane Quick buried 21st January 1713 at Zennor.

James wrote his Will 5th February 1703/4 and it was proved 17th January 1704/5 after an Inventory taken 13th November 1704.

He probably died around the end of October or early November 1704.

There were six children named in James' Will:-

Sons Gabriel, John and James.
Daughters Grace wife of John Roberts, Jane wife of Paul Quick and Zenobia wife of William Stevens.

There were also two sons who pre-deceased him.

Richard Quick of St Ives left a Will in 1692 in which he names his father James and brother William as executors.
Richard was buried at St Ives 24th November 1692.

William Quick of St Ives wrote his Will in 1698/9 and it was proved a year later.

CT

[gthebutch]

Thank you for that. Do you have any information on James Quick's parents? I have his father recorded as Thomas Quick, died in 1641 but there is no mention of his mother. They had three sons: James, Francis and Anthony.
Do you have records that go back any further?

[Cornish Terrier]

Despite what you may read in a couple of postings here and what you may see in Online Family Trees the parents of James is as far back as we can go right now.

James was the son of Thomas and Zenobia Quick and with no marriage found there is no indication of what Zenobia's maiden name might have been.

You will see in some sites that her surname was Cynobys but this was merely a variation of her Christian name which can be found in the Zennor Bishop's Transcripts.

The death date for Thomas is also not accurate.

1641 is actually the year of the Protestation Returns which Thomas signed and it is the last accurate record of him being alive.

We know that Zenobia was a widow at the time of the Hearth Tax so Thomas died sometime between 1641 and 1657 (see below).

The known and suspected children of Thomas and Zenobia are:-

Philippa baptised at Zennor in 1619
Thomas - only suspected and nothing else known
Francis - left a Will in 1689
John - probable son and he is found in other documents
James - married Jane Knight als Roberte
Jane - suspected daughter who was married at Ludgvan in 1667
Emblyn - married at Gwennap in 1657 as 'daughter of Thomas Wicke deceased'
Anthony - baptised at Zennor in 1634

So Philippa and Anthony are confirmed due to their baptisms surviving in the records, Emblyn was named as daughter of Thomas and Wills left by Francis, James and Anthony tend to link them together.

All can reasonably be linked to Thomas and Zenobia in any case given there seems to have been only one family of Quicks in the area for about 100 years.

CT