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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2007 21:31:23 GMT -5
Charles Glasson married Grace Rogers in Gwennap on the 6th April 1795. Grace, however, was a widow.
Previously Matthew Rogers married a Grace Clemmoe in 1790 and also John Rogers married a Grace Rowe in 1790.
Could somebody possibly tell me which one of these gentlemen made Grace a widow please?
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Post by cornishmaid on Nov 16, 2007 4:38:45 GMT -5
Apparently, the Cornwall Centre have transcripts of burials in Gwennap from 1628 till 1845. I will try and check there today to see if I can find a burial of either Matthew or John Rogers. Was Grace's second marriage also in Gwennap?
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Post by cornishmaid on Nov 16, 2007 7:31:46 GMT -5
I haven't had chance to get to the Cornwall Centre yet, but I did find the following deaths online on the OPC's website: Matthew Rogers, buried Gwennap 12 December 1792 Matthew Rogers, buried Gwennap 31 May 1793 (this date was marked as 30th then altered to 31st in Register) Matthew Rogers, buried Gwennap 18 December 1793 I could find no record of a burial of a John Rogers in the area in the right timescale. I would, therefore, say it was Matthew Rogers that made Grace a widow, although which Matthew if any of the above it was is another matter However, there could be a burial of a John Rogers in a different area, if they didn't stay in Gwennap.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 16, 2007 10:50:54 GMT -5
Cornishmaid (m'darlin) thankyou for stepping into the breach here.
I cannot help much on this one just now so will leave it to you to ponder.
Once re-settled I will try and take a better look at the scenario and try my best to help from there.
Ian
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Post by cornishmaid on Nov 16, 2007 12:02:16 GMT -5
I managed to pop into the Cornwall Centre quickly, and had a look at the Gwennap transcriptions for you. I don't know if you already have this detail, but here it is. Marriages: 22 November 1790 John Rogers, Sojourner in this Parish, Bachelor, and Grace Rowe, Sojourner in this Parish, Spinster (both of this Parish) John signed his name; Grace signed herself as "Rough". Witnesses: James Chynoweth and Sampson Chynoweth 26 December 1790 Mathew (Matthew), Sojourner in this Parish, Bachelor, and Grace Clemmoe, Spinster They both made their mark, Mathew's looks like a curly "2" and Grace's looks like a curly X. Witnesses: Hugh Donnithorne and Henry Rogers. 6 April 1795 Glassom, Charles, Bachelor, and Grace Rogers, Widow (Spinster) He signed "Glasson"; she made her mark, which looked like a curly "X" with 2 strokes on the left to right half of it. Witnesses: Peter Godrey and John Skinner. There was no additional information of ages, etc, in the burial transcriptions regarding Mathew Rogers. I did find 2 burials for a John Rogers, these being on 4 February 1798 and another on 17 January 1800. There were only 2 baptisms of a Grace Rogers, these were: Grace Rogers, dau of John and Jennifer bapt. 30 August 1807 Grace Rogers, dau of John and Jane bapt. 25 December 1808 That's all I've had time to look at so far. Maybe the witnesses at the weddings will give us some sort of clue. At the moment the above is raising more questions instead of answering any
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 17, 2007 10:59:58 GMT -5
One of the main problems here is that there are so many 'sojourners' involved. This often/usually means they were from elsewhere so the problem will be to find the 'elsewhere'. Got work to do now (moving) so might be quiet for a while.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2007 19:32:46 GMT -5
Hi CornishMaid
Firstly thankyou very much for your efforts, I really didn't expect you to get on your bicycle and head off to the Cornwall Centre, so the fact you did is very much appreciated.
I agree with your conclusions as I tried a little harder after my post and found similar information to that you posted. The information will add to the datbase but I think that they are not quite the family I am looking for, and even if they were I cannot prove it.
I might send you a pm later and ask a bit about the Cornwall Centre as I am looking to head your way in the next wee while.
Kind regards
Allen
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 18, 2007 9:59:06 GMT -5
Allen - not sure how far you have been able to get with this but there are many Abstracts of Wills available online which might be of help.
Many of those can be accessed from this site via the link to 'Kathie's Home Page' - Kathie being Zenobia.
There are links from there to other sites that have been doing similar work so it is definitely worth checking.
Ian
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 18, 2007 10:04:43 GMT -5
Allen - if you have not found the link do the following and it should get you there:- At the top of this page (under the Flag of St Piran) is a 'toolbar' on which you will find an icon for 'members' - click on this. From there you will have a list of members with Zenobia 'right at the top of the list'. Next to her name you will find an email address and the next item should be the link to her website. Go there and enjoy. Ian
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