Post by myghaelangof on Oct 15, 2007 13:00:40 GMT -5
James Trahair was born in Redruth 1717, the son of James and Elizabeth (Michel). He married Juliana Champion at St Just in Penwith in 1738 (James 'of Redruth'), and looks like his brother Stephen and sister Mary followed down to St Just soon after. I believe I can take Elizabeth Michel back to Stephen, bapt 1588 Redruth, but have had no luck with James senior. Does anyone have information on this family/ Thanks Mike
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Do you have details of the descendants of James & Julian? I am trying to link Richard (1833) son of Richard & Constance(Oats) whp married My gt,gt aunt Elizabeth Humphrys and Benjamin (1818) Son of James and Jenifer(Uren) who married her sister Martha Wallis Humphrys. I think I have worked it out but cant rely on IGI and dont have access to St Just records at the moment
Post by cornishmaid on Oct 22, 2007 16:41:23 GMT -5
Hi Mike and Londoner
I'll get myself over to the Cornwall Centre in Redruth tomorrow and see if they have anything which may help. They have a lot of transcriptions, but I will check whether they are for the appropriate location and timescales. Have printed your queries off, so will let you know one way or the other tomorrow.
And a big hi to Ian. Glad to see you back ;D. Missed you here!
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Richard Trahair who married Elizabeth Humphrys, 21st.mar.1860 at Sennen was the son of Michael Trahair. Both were Lighthouse keepers. The detaisl can be found at, West Penwith Resources, then go to the Sennen page. Roy
I am convinced that the name Michael is an error - I have spent ages searching for him and he does not seem to exist - Richard son of Richard has to be the answer, unless anyone has found Michael somewhere I haven't looked!
Post by Cornish Terrier on Oct 23, 2007 13:17:59 GMT -5
Hmmm - seems we have a little dilemma here, don't we.
I am, for the moment, siding with 'londoner' on this one. (No offence Roy)
Have just looked at the Transcribed Marriage Record on the OPC site and it does definitely show that Richard's father was 'Michael Trahair'.
However, this is a transcription only and it is 'possible' that it may be incorrect.
Depending on the handwriting and quality of the materials used from which to transcribe - I can envisage the possibility of 'Michael' and 'Richard' being misenterpreted.
I have not personally seen the original so can only guess at this so I will be keeping an open mind.
However - Richard Trahair was, according to the 1861 Census, born at St Just in Penwith about 1832/3 and he was a light-house keeper based in the Trinity Buildings at Sennen but working on the Longships Lighthouse off Land's End.
As 'londoner' says - we cannot rely on IGI. However, the only possible Richard who matches the above is baptised at St Just 24th June 1832 as son of Richard and Constance Trahair.
And, without trying all the permutations, I cannot find a Michael Trahair in the Census Records of 1841, 1851 or 1861.
The 1861 Census record is a little confusing. Richard Trahair is listed as head of house age 28. Elizabeth is his wife and also 28.
But then we have Matilda Cock, age 23, as his daughter followed by Louisa Cock, age 11, daughter.
Best of all - Charlotte R.V. Cock, age 1, grandaughter.
This is obviously not correct and will be something to do with other men working 'on shift' at the Longships Light.
And now for the 'coup de gras' - (sorry Roy)
1851 Census - St Just in Penwith - Fore Street
Richard Trahair, head, mar., 53, light-keeper at Longships, St Just Constance do., wife, mar, 56, St Just Richard do., son, 18, cordwainer, St Just Constance do., daur, 16, dress maker, St Just
No Michael in sight but we do have Richard senior as a Light-keeper at the Longships with, it seems, his son following on sometime later.
I think we need to have someone take a very close look at that 1860 marriage entry as it certainly appears to be where the problem lies. (No blame at all on the Transcriber.)
Suggest you do a 'Google Search' using the search-term "longships light trahair" and I think you may find some interesting stuff.
It would appear that your Richard Trahair (bn 1832/3) was at the Godrevy Lighthouse (off Gwithian) in 1881 but appears to have been living in retirement at St Just in 1901.
Post by myghaelangof on Oct 25, 2007 13:54:54 GMT -5
I'm pleased we seem to have resolved the Richard son of Richard scenario, as I'm still hunting for my Trahair notes. I was puzzled by a Michael, never having come across him before. My line is through Nicholas Trahair (1748-1827) and his daughter Margaret (1783-1814). Margaret married Thomas Bennetts at St Just in 1800. Margaret's youngest brother, Richard, was the lighthouse keeper.
as a slight aside - Richard and Elizabeth had a son, also Richard, who died age 15 and is buried at Barnoon, St Ives. from the grave, before the xisting terrace was built on the hill between, it would have been possible to see Godrevy, where his father was stationed.