Where I start to get a little confused is with the ancestry of Richard Eddy (born 1717 died 1796) who married Frances Banfield.
I believe Richard to have been the son of Richard Eddy (born circa 1695 - ?) who married Joan Richards
At least some of the information floating around on the web suggests that Richard Eddy (born c.1695) was the son of David Eddy (born 1672 died 1753) and grandson of Philip Eddy (born circa 1645) who married 1670 to a Margaret (born 1648 died 1709). While it would be nice to simply just claim them, the sources are not quoted and I have so far been unable to verify the validity of the data.
Wondering what thoughts other members might have on this?
Post by Cornish Terrier on May 9, 2008 22:27:53 GMT -5
A brief note on Richard Eddy and Frances Banfield.
My information, partly worked by myself and partly with information from other Eddy researchers, shows a few things I have not seen mentioned during this discussion so I would like some clarification.
By what I currently understand Richard Eddy was married three times.
First wife was Frances Banfield by whom he had five children Frances was buried at Gulval 8th June 1758.
Second wife was Jane Nekervis who Richard married 21st September 1759 at Gulval. From this marriage I have been told there was a daughter, Jennifer, baptised at Gulval 28th June 1760 and who married a John Mitchell at Gulval 28th January 1786. I have no burial for Jane as yet but yet another researcher informed me of a third marriage for Richard.
Third wife was Blanch Jenkins who Richard married at Gulval 22nd July 1762. From this marriage there were a further seven children giving him thirteen in all.
According to my sources back then Richard Eddy was buried at Gulval 30th December 1774.
Blanch, his third wife and now his widow, then married Richard Allen, a thatcher from Ludgvan, at Gulval 2nd September 1780.
CT, you continue to astound me with the knowledge you have on some of these early families.
I had never thought to go looking for further marriages for Richard Eddy, even though with hindsight it makes perfect sense since he had infant children at home and would need a carer for them.
I can solve the mystery of what happened to Richard's second wife Jane Nankervis. The Gulval OPC site has her buried on the 28th July 1860, only a few weeks after the birth of her child Jennifer, so most likely as a result of childbirth related issues. Richard's wife Jane was buried as Jennifer Eddy, with the notation that she was the wife of Richard Eddy. (see www.cornwall-opc-database.org/moreinfo.php?ID=494163&dbtype=burials). This of course also explains the daughter's name (after her mother).
I am quite happy to accept that this Richard Eddy was buried on the 30th December 1774, since the death date I had was from another researcher. Although there is a burial of a Richard Eddy in 1796 which was possible to have been the Richard under discussion, it would have made him about 80 which was a very good age for the period. Aged around 60 at death is more likely to be correct. The 1796 death may be a nephew or other relative?
Interestingly, although I can see the re-marriage of Richard's third wife (widow) Blanch (nee Jenkins) Eddy to Richard Allen in the IGI, it does not appear on the Gulval OPC site in their marriage records.
Do either of you have a Peter Eddy b. 1817 St. Just in Penwith, in your family tree? He was married to Elizabeth Hill or Rowe. They called him Captain Peter Eddy, because he was a (tin) mine supervisor, but he was also a fisherman. Indirectly the boat was the cause of his death. It capsized in a storm, he was injured and never fully recovered.
They had a daughter Annie b. 1/1/1853 married James Angwin. Annie and James moved to the U.S. in 1884. She died in Lead, South Dakota 1/7/1942.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Mar 2, 2011 6:19:02 GMT -5
A very confusing part of the Eddy family to say the least! But then is there any part of the Eddy family that is not confusing?
It happens that I spent quite a deal of time on the Peter Eddy families early last year and I believe I now have a reasonably accurate 'map' to work from.
In this case we have the problem of three Peter Eddy baptisms to deal with.
Peter #1 - baptised 3rd November 1816 St Just son of Richard and Margaret (nee Row) Eddy of Botallack
Peter #2 - baptised 6th January 1817 St Just son of Peter and Mary (nee Edmonds) Eddy of Kenidjack
Peter #3 - baptised 8th February 1818 Constantine illegitimate son of Mary Eddy
The man you want is Peter #1 so I will try to deal briefly with the other two first.
Peter #3 - he was actually baptised as Peter Matthew EADY but appeared later simply as Peter Eddy. He married Emma Mutton at Liskeard in 1847 and is included here given one of the other Peter Eddys spent some time around the Sithney area. Peter and Emma had a son, Walter John in 1860 but I have not pursued the family any further to date.
Peter #2 - this is where I really had problems but in the end I was satisfied that this was the man who married Elizabeth ROWE and was involved at Sithney.
Peter and Elizabeth were married at St Just 13th March 1841 with James Hall and John Tregear as witnesses.
Elizabeth Rowe was baptised at Sithney 1st February 1818 (born 17th January) daughter of Matthew Rowe and Anne (nee Trannack).
Peter and Elizabeth had four children:-
Elizabeth bp. 11th June 1841 daughter of Peter and Elizabeth Eddy of Carnyorth. She died at Porthleven and was buried 22nd February 1843 at Sithney age 2
Peter bp. 31st December 1842 at St Just son of Peter and Elizabeth Eddy of Carnyorth. Peter also died at Porthleven and was buried at Sithney 28th June 1846 age 3.
John Row bp. 4th March 1844 at St Just son of Peter and Elizabeth Eddy of Carnyorth
James bp. 13th April 1845 at Sithney son of Peter and Elizabeth Eddy of Porthleven.
James was a posthumous child to Peter Eddy who died in December 1844.
Peter Eddy of Trewellard age 25 was bured 19th December 1844 at St Just
I was a little concerned about the baptism at Sithney when Peter had died at Trewellard however this was where Elizabeth's family were living and the family had been around that area in the previous years.
Elizabeth married again - to Thomas Boase at St Just 24th December 1853.
And now we come to the man you were enquiring about although I am at a loss as to how the name Elizabeth HILL got involved here.
Peter #1 - was actually married twice!
Peter EDDY married Mary COCK 23rd January 1838 at St Just with John Cock and John Tregear as witnesses.
From this marriage there were four children:-
Peter bp. 17th June 1838 at St Just son of Peter and Mary Eddy of Botallack. He was buried 11th March 1841 at St Just age 3 'of Nancherrow'.
John bp. 19th April 1840 at St Just son of Peter and Mary Eddy of Nancherrow. He married Jane HARVEY in 1861 and had eleven children with the last being born posthumously.
John Eddy of Churchtown age 45 was buried 20th December 1885 at St Just.
Peter bp. 8th June 1842 at St Just son of Peter and Mary Eddy of Church Town. He married Mary WILLIAMS 2nd November 1865 at St Just but I currently have no further information on him.
Mary bp. 5th August 1844 at St Just daughter of Peter and Mary Eddy of Church Town. Mary Eddy, infant, of Church Town was buried 13th December 1844 at St Just.
Mary Eddy of Church Town age 33 was buried 24th May 1846 at St Just.
Peter Eddy married Elizabeth HARVEY in 1846 (FreeBMD) and from this marriage there were ELEVEN children!
Richard son of Peter and Elizabeth Eddy of Trenance Mines was baptised at Mullion 13th November 1850 but had been born in the Pontypool area of Monmouthshire, Wales in 1847.
William son of Peter and Elizabeth Eddy of Trenance Mines was baptised at Mullion also on 13th November 1850 and had been born at Pontypool in 1849. He married Margaretta SHUTE in 1884 in the Penzance R.D.
Elizabeth daughter of Peter and Elizabeth Eddy of Trenance Mines was baptised at St Just 21st September 1851.
Henry son of Peter and Elizabeth Eddy of Church Town was baptised 5th February 1854 at St Just.
ANNE was born at St Just about 1855 - I believe this will be the wife of James ANGWIN.
James son of Peter and Elizabeth Eddy of Church Town was baptised 12th October 1856 at St Just. James married Elizabeth Jane FURZE in 1881 in the Penzance R.D.
Honor daughter of Peter and Elizabeth Eddy of Church Town was baptised 6th February 1859 at St Just. Honor was buried 15th June 1870 at St Just age 12.
Thomas son of Peter and Elizabeth Eddy of Church Town was baptised 23rd September 1860 at St Just. Thomas married Mary Ann NANKERVIS at Halsetown 16th September 1888.
Mary Ann daughter of Peter and Elizabeth Eddy of Church Town was baptised 14th September 1862 at St Just She married Gabriel THOMAS in 1889 in the Penzance R.D.
George son of Peter and Elizabeth Eddy of Church Town was baptised 8th March 1865 at St Just and buried 30th September 1865 at St Just.
Margaret daughter of Peter and Elizabeth Eddy of Church Town was baptised 8th February 1871 at St Just (born about 1866). Godparents were P. Eddy, Amelia Harvey, H. Cock, Celia Cock. Margaret was buried at St Just 14th May 1874 age 8.
That is all the children that I am aware of! As if that would not be enough!
Peter Eddy of Church Town age 67 was buried at St Just 31st July 1884.
Elizabeth Harvey Eddy of St Just age 71 was buried 25th October 1897 St Just Wesleyan Cemetery.
Those are the conclusions I painstakingly arrived at after probably weeks of work on these families. Searching the PRs (mostly transcripts) and the Census to try and untangle was certainly a challenge.
I would like to think that I have everything accurate but there is always the chance that I have missed something.
And that is where your mention of the demise of Peter Eddy in his boat has me curious.
I hope this helps but if you have anything to add or if you see anything that might need discussion prior to a possible change then please let me know.
Thank you. With all this information ... my puzzle is starting to look better. If I have this correct: the daughter of Peter Eddy and Elizabeth Harvey - Annie, married James Angwin. Peters parents were Richard and Margaret (Row)?
About the boat incident. Nanny Angwin, dau. of Charles (James bro) relayed this story to my father in 1954. She had heard it from her father. My dad said his mother, Annie Jane had told him the same story.
I now believe I confused Elizabeth (Nanny) Rowe who married Charles Angwin, (abt. 1865) with the Eliz. Row who married Peter #2. My Elizabeth's parents were Richard Rowe and Ann Roberts.
The information on Elizabeth Jane Furze and James Eddy, are exactly what I have. Great grandma Annie Eddy Angwin was b. 1/1/1853 and died in Lead, SD 1/7/1942. Her husband James, b. 1/9/1853, d. 8/1894, is buried in Nevadaville, CO, he died of consumption. I got the dates from the headstones.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Mar 2, 2011 20:24:16 GMT -5
Cousinjack - regarding the Angwin family.
Are we talking about James Woolcock Angwin son of Andrew and Grace of Boscaswell?
If so then brother Charles would be 18 years his junior?
Or are we talking about sons of Charles and Nanny Angwin who were at Carnyorth in 1861?
AHA - I do believe it will be the latter.
A little confusion because both families had sons Andrew and James born only a couple of years apart with the difference being that the sons of Andrew and Grace were each 2 years older than the sons of the same name of Charles and Nanny.
I found them at Gilpin, Colorado in 1880 .............. and the confusion began! ;D