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Feb 1, 2008 6:45:33 GMT -5
Post by cornishglassons on Feb 1, 2008 6:45:33 GMT -5
Hello Everyone,
I am researching the Glasson Family and at the moment am concentrating on the branch from Crowan - although I am becoming interested in all Glassons from this area, Breage and Camborne also, and am fascinated to know the connections (or lack of) between them all.
I am currently trying to find details of the different properties, inns, farms and tenements owned by the Glassons so that I can walk in the footsteps of past Glassons when I visit Cornwall in the Spring.
Although I am quite new to this hobby I'm very happy to share my information with anyone but will try not to bombard you with too many questions.
Best wishes to all, Carole
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Feb 1, 2008 11:46:35 GMT -5
Post by kerthen on Feb 1, 2008 11:46:35 GMT -5
Carole, Not sure she is one of yours, but I have an Ann Glasson in my collaterals file. She was bap at Crowan in 1787 and married John Carlyon prob abt 1805 (possibly in St Erth). They lived at Carzise in Crowan and had several children. After Ann's death in 1831, John married Elizabeth Ralph who was from that same general neighborhood. Her family was at Paul's Green.
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Feb 9, 2008 11:08:00 GMT -5
Post by Cornish Terrier on Feb 9, 2008 11:08:00 GMT -5
I do not currently have information on this particular line in my database but will follow the thread in the appropriate section and see what I can do to help.
I, too, have Glasson ancestry but it is from the Lelant and Towednack area.
Ian
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Mar 3, 2008 18:12:50 GMT -5
Post by cornishglassons on Mar 3, 2008 18:12:50 GMT -5
Carole, Not sure she is one of yours, but I have an Ann Glasson in my collaterals file. She was bap at Crowan in 1787 and married John Carlyon prob abt 1805 (possibly in St Erth). . Thanks so much. I have not come across this Ann Glasson before - which makes it really interesting in such a small area as Crowan. I will look into it and let you know. With grateful thanks and best wishes, Carole ps can I ask what I am sure is a stupid question: What is a collaterals file? Yes, I'm that new! LOL
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Mar 4, 2008 11:19:27 GMT -5
Post by Cornish Terrier on Mar 4, 2008 11:19:27 GMT -5
I think, without looking at the Dictionary, that 'collateral' means something like 'associated'. (But maybe not necessarily directly connected). Remember the 'Arnie' movie 'Collateral Damage'. You may find that the inference in this case is that there are families of the same name who have not yet been linked together by any common ancestor. They may be living in the same area (or not) and there may be some sort of circumstantial evidence of a possible relationship that has not yet been found. Hope that helps without too much confusion. Ian
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Mar 4, 2008 13:47:17 GMT -5
Post by tonymitch on Mar 4, 2008 13:47:17 GMT -5
Hello Carole,
I think Ian is correct. This is what would understand by "collateral".
However......
I once prefixed a question to a stern looking woman at the information desk in St Petersburg Airport with, "I know that this may seem to be a stupid question, but..." She stopped me in full flow with a wave of her hand and replied in perfect English. "An old Russian saying is that there are no such things as stupid questions....only stupid answers. Now what is your question?"
Keep asking them. It's only through people such as you (and dare I say it, me) that we all learn.
Tony M
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Mar 5, 2008 21:09:40 GMT -5
Post by trencrom on Mar 5, 2008 21:09:40 GMT -5
My understanding is that collaterals in genealogy are the lines of descent applicable to an ancestor's brothers and sisters etc, i.e. they are part of the family but not one's own direct ancestral line.
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Mar 6, 2008 8:46:28 GMT -5
Post by Cornish Terrier on Mar 6, 2008 8:46:28 GMT -5
Trencrom - nice to be in touch again. You may well be correct in your intepretation of 'collateral' and it certainly makes some sense. When I wrote my reply the other night I must admit that I had to think without searching for my dictionary. However, I believe the term 'collateral' in the way I described it was 'more or less' correct when I referenced the 'Arnie' Movie. Your new perspective now brings things into line a little. The film 'Collateral Damage' is one I do not think I have seen (at least not all of it) but it would be referring to, as you infer, damage to 'relatives' - i.e. in wartime a 'brother platoon or regiment' or a 'brother city' in the case of attacks such as we have seen over the last number of years. So, although the term may be used a little loosely, we all seem to have a common understanding of the meaning. (I think. ) Ian
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Mar 15, 2008 10:16:14 GMT -5
Post by kerthen on Mar 15, 2008 10:16:14 GMT -5
Carole, yes, by collateral, I meant outside of my direct line (and I have a very broad interpretation of 'collateral' because in my experience anyone living in the neighborhood could end up being a relative and is worth keeping an eye on!
Ann Glasson, in this case, was the first wife of John Carlyon. A year after her 1831 death he married Elizabeth Ralph (whom I am interested in collaterally). Also Ann and John's son Philip Carlyon married Mary Ralph (whom I'm also interested in collaterally). They emigrated to America. Mary died about 1850 in America and Philip remarried.
I don't know anything more about the Glassons. The Carlyons were living at Carzise, a tenement bordering the boundary with St Erth.
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