looking for Mary JAMES bap. circa 1810

[cledry]

My 3x ggm Mary JAMES according to census records was born in Lelant about 1810, she married Thomas HOSKING at Lelant on 24 Oct 1830. I have 13 children attributed to them.

Here's the issue. I cannot find a baptism at Lelant. So I suspect she was the Mary JAMES baptised 10 MAR 1811 to William JAMES and his wife Mary. However 3 trees that I have looked at online have her being baptised to a Henry JAMES & Mary in Breage. I have found other issues with these 3 trees, and they seem to be copies of one another. None of the owners of the trees can answer their reasoning, and they seem to have copied from a single tree without any checking.

I also note that amongst the 13 children of Thomas HOSKING and Mary JAMES there is a son William James HOSKING. There are no sons named Henry despite having 8 sons that they could have named after grampa.

I welcome your thoughts.

[cledry]

My other thought was that it might be the Mary JAMES bap 4 JUN 1809 at Gwinear to a William and Mary JAMES. He was a tinner and so were the HOSKINGs. The HOSKINGs were residing at Carne Tiscoe and Rejarne which are near Gwinear.

[Cornish Terrier]

He was a tinner and so were the HOSKINGs

Given that probably more than half the population of Cornwall at that time were 'tinners' I would not place too much store in the occupations here.

But having taken a look at the possible James family you mention I tend to agree the 1809 baptism is a candidate to be considered. Mary Hosking (nee James) was buried at Lelant 28th December 1859 at the age of 51 which would suggest a birth around 1808 or 1809.
The 1851 Census shows Mary as being age 41 which, to my way of thinking, puts her birth more likely in 1809 given the Census of that year I think was taken in March. But we all know ages in the Census and in burial records were notorious for being inaccurate!

On reading your post again I see that you have initially favoured the Mary James baptised at Ludgvan in 1811. Whilst certainly a 'possibility' she is less likely to have been the wife of Thomas Hosking than the girl baptised at Gwinear in 1809 if we accept that the Census and burial ages discussed above are correct.

That point could probably be discussed ad infinitum without gaining a consensus so I have done some further checking and found another and more compelling reason to remove the Ludgvan baptism from contention.

Mary James of Croft Hooper age 25 buried 17th August 1836 at Ludgvan

Yes, she could have been a married woman or even a widow or she could, potentially, have been the girl from Gwinear. Or her age might have been wrong or ..............

However, in the 1841 Census at Croft Hooper, Ludgvan was the family of William and Mary James along with six surviving children whose names and ages all match recorded baptisms to William and Mary James at Ludgvan.

This was the family of William James and Mary Bell who married at Ludgvan 23rd July 1809. The OPC records show they had 10 children, including Mary in 1811, baptised at Ludgvan from 1809 to 1826.

I would suggest now that your Mary was certainly the one baptised at Gwinear in 1809 to William James and Mary Gregor who married at Gwinear 24th December 1806.

Hope that is of some help.

CT

[Cornish Terrier]

One final thing that might help with Mary James - I have just looked at the Mary James baptised at Breage that 'everyone' seems to think married Thomas Hosking. That baptism did not take place until 1814 which means that unless it was a delayed baptism she would be up to five years too young to match what is otherwise known about the wife of Thomas Hosking.

I would suggest this Mary (at Breage) was the first child of Henry James and Mary Rosemergy who married at Breage 11th November 1813!!! (a big OUCH!!! for those claiming the link to Thomas Hosking! )

Henry and Mary had another two children baptised at Breage - Sophia in 1819 and Caroline in 1823.

So I am sticking with the Mary baptised at Gwinear in 1809 given I seem to have eliminated all other possibilities.

CT