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Lanyon
Apr 29, 2020 13:02:18 GMT -5
Post by JerseyGirl on Apr 29, 2020 13:02:18 GMT -5
Interested in Lanyon family from Cornwall. My branch: Helston cordwainers and ironmongers. I can go back to Sancreed & Madron, John Lanion D 1634. Have lots of information from 100 year old family tree which has lots of info not all of it connected! Spending lockdown trying to sort it out into something a bit more user friendly. Any help much appreciated!
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Lanyon
Sept 28, 2021 18:10:29 GMT -5
Post by clanning19 on Sept 28, 2021 18:10:29 GMT -5
Traced my Y to the Lanyons, so i'm also curious about them. All the research points to them being from Brittany, but I've no idea the reason for the migration, or if they were part of the bretons, etc.
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Lanyon
Sept 30, 2021 11:01:40 GMT -5
Post by trencrom on Sept 30, 2021 11:01:40 GMT -5
Traced my Y to the Lanyons, so i'm also curious about them. All the research points to them being from Brittany, but I've no idea the reason for the migration, or if they were part of the bretons, etc. The Bretons were closely related to the Celtic Cornish, as they were the descendants of Briton refugees who crossed the Channel during the time of the Anglo-Saxon invasion of Britain in the early Middle Ages. There were Bretons who served in the army of William the Conqueror at Hastings and there were Bretons who subsequently received land grants in the South-West. After the Plantagenet dynasty came to power in Normandy and England, Geoffrey the son of King Henry II of England became Duke of Brittany by marriage. Control over Brittany was lost to the Plantagenets of course, along with Normandy, Anjou, Touraine and Maine, circa 1204 when the French king Philip Augustus expelled the Plantagenets from their holdings in northern France. Trencrom
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Lanyon
Oct 1, 2021 16:13:50 GMT -5
Post by clanning19 on Oct 1, 2021 16:13:50 GMT -5
I unfortunately have found no mention whatsoever of them in Brittany, any tools that could help with that? I realize things were not as organized during that time period.
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Lanyon
Oct 13, 2021 7:07:06 GMT -5
Post by JerseyGirl on Oct 13, 2021 7:07:06 GMT -5
There are references to them coming from Brittany- Lysons 'Magna Britannica' Vol 3 Cornwall mentions two brothers who came from a the town of Lannion in Brittany and the Lanyon coat of arms is similar to the towns coat of arms however Richard II reigned 1367-1399 and there were Lanyons in Cornwall C1200 so the story isn't strictly accurate! "Lanyon of Lanyon in Madron, and of Lanyon in Gwinnear. — The popular tradition of these families is, that they were descended from two brothers who came over from France with Isabel, consort of Richard II., and gave their names to the two bartons in which they fixed their residence; and as a confirmation of this tradition, it is said, that their arms were the same as those of the town of Lanion in Britanny. This tradition we know to be, in some respects, erroneous; but contrary as it is to the general practice, we have reason to believe, that the tenement of Lanyon, within the barton of Coswin in Gwinnear, was so called by the family on its becoming their residence; but so far from there being any truth in the story of the brothers being founders of the two families, it is certain that the Lanyons of Lanyon in Gwinnear are descended from Edward, a younger son of Richard Lanyon, who married Margaret Treskillard. This Edward is called by Leland, Lanyon of Coswin. That this statement is correct, is proved by the circumstance of Lanyon of Madron and Lanyon of Gwinnear being, at the time of the visitation of 1620, related so nearly as in the degree of cousin-germans. The elder branch of the Lanyons of Madron is extinct, but some of the family, descended from younger branches, are still remaining at Burian. Mr. Tobias Lanyon, now of Camborne, surgeon and apothecary, is the representative of the Lanyons of Lanyon in Madron and Gwinnear. Before the branching off of the families, there was a match with the heiress of Trelebicke; afterwards in the Madron branch, a match with a coheiress of Militon.
¶Arms of Lanyon: — Sable, a castle with four towers Arg., standing on the waves of the sea Az., over the same a falcon hovering, with bells, proper."
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Post by killalee on Nov 24, 2021 8:54:53 GMT -5
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Lanyon
Nov 24, 2021 12:52:35 GMT -5
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Post by killalee on Nov 24, 2021 12:52:35 GMT -5
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Post by trencrom on Nov 24, 2021 13:12:13 GMT -5
These arms in the Visitation will be the arms of Richard Lanyon, the husband of Jane Mooring, who is shown as the informant to the heralds in 1620. (Given the visitation pedigree, they are presumably also the arms of the earlier Richard Lanyon who married Margaret Treskillard.) The arms given by Lysons and quoted by Jersey Girl will therefore have to be the arms of a collateral branch of the Lanyon family, given both their similarities and their differences to these visitation arms.
Trencrom
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Lanyon
Nov 24, 2021 13:19:58 GMT -5
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Post by killalee on Nov 24, 2021 13:19:58 GMT -5
Yup. Although differentiation wasn't really massively practiced in English heraldry (note: Cornwall was deemed a separate nation, heraldically speaking, from England and whilst it came under the jurisdiction of the College of Arms, there were some unique elements and practices). One other simply differentiated arms of a junior branch were for Godolphin (main family Gules, a double headed eagle displayed Argent between three fleurs-de-lis of the same), where a collateral branch changed the the fleurs-de-lis from argent (white/silver) to or (gold/yellow).
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