Daniel Treloar by two and Loveday Tooker and Loveday James

[elizbarnes]

I am trying to sort the Daniel and Loveday Treloar children to the correct parents. Background-

Thomas Treloar (bp 1653) married Ann Jeffrey on 5 Jul 1684
Children of interest
Daniel bp 19 Jan 1700 married Elizabeth Tresedder Bennet bp 12 Sep 1698 married Ann Pascoe
Eliz parents William and Jane Boras Ann parents John and Elizabeth Pascoe
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Daniel bp 1742 bur 1843 Daniel bp 1733 bur 1735
Married Loveday James or Tocker 1764 Daniel bp 1738 bur 1794 or 1800 (still to be confirmed) married Loveday James or Tocker 1765

Loveday Tocker (Tooker, Tucker) parents Philip and Susanna
Loveday James parents- John and ? Dorothy bpt 1734 in Helston as Lovely James

Children of Daniel and Loveday. There are 2 Daniel’s and 2 Loveday’s.
Baptised Wendron Parish (Names at the end of each name are names in the family mentioned- trying to use naming conventions a little)

27.10.1764 Jane Borras
9.11.1766 Elizabeth Tresedder/Pascoe/Tooker
7.8.1768 Mary Tooker (g grandma)
26.8 1770 Daniel bur 1843 father
30.8.1770 Daniel father
2.8.1772 John Pascoe/James
27. 9. 1772 Loveday mother
15. 9.1776 John Pascoe/James
15.4 1779 William Tresedder
28.10.1781 Sarah
31.10.1784 Ann Pascoe/Treloar

Baptised either Helston or Sithney (less than 3miles from Wendron)

26.8.1764 Thomas Treloar
8.4.1776 Loveday mother
17.4.1778 Richard Tooker(cousin)
5.11.1780 Blanche Tooker G Aunt/cousin
16.4.1784 Philip bur 1817 Tocker

Deaths of Loveday Treloar in Wendron
1814 @76 -b abt 1738
1820 @77 b abt 1743
1821 @83 b abt 1738

Loveday Tocker (Tucker) parents Philip Tooker and Susanna Matthews (Philip from Gwinear) currently cant find Lovesay’s baptism
A Loveday Tucker was bapt in 1731 in Gorran to a John and Bridget Tucker/Tooker-however names of children don’t seem to match)
Loveday James parents John James unknown wife. ( Possibilities -Dorothy) (Bpt as Lovely James in Helston)
Daniel Treloar parents Daniel and Elizabeth
Daniel Treloar parents Bennet and Ann
Another Daniel Treloar married Elizabeth James in 1766 in Wendron, Elizabeth’s parents James and Mary James. Elizabeth bp 1743 bur 1799

Grandparent Names
Thomas Treloar
Ann Jeffrey
John Pascoe
Elizabeth Pearce
William Tresdder
Jane Borras
Elizabeth (Unknown) Tocker
Philip Tocker

-Philip’s sister in law Blanche marries to William Tooker of Gwinear
William and Blanche children-Philip and William. William marries Mary Wheare- their children
Thomas Wheare Tooker 1749
Blanche 1754
William 1755
Blanche 1756
Scipio 1760 (Philip and William had brothers Henry and Scipio, Uncles to this Scipio)
John 1760
Richard 1762
Philip 1763
Henry 1764
Henry 1767
Ann 1770

Now I think that the children of Daniel, (Bennet2, Thomas1) and Loveday Tooker are
Thomas 1764
Loveday 1776
Richard 1778
Blanche 1780
Philip 1784

The missing years 1766-1774 are either miscarriages or I just haven’t found the children.

The other children all belong to he other Daniel And Loveday James.

Can someone confirm they agree with my thinking or point out other sources to try and clarify the children and parents.


Elizabeth

[Cornish Terrier]

This is certainly not going to be an easy problem to sort out but I am afraid you have confused things terribly by all the additional information included in the list of children.

I would suggest that you forget about anything except the two marriages and the list of possible children for now and map out a simplified scenario for me. The one piece of additional information to include would be the names of the parents of the two Daniel Treloars (including maiden name if known of the mothers).

For the list of potential children simply list the names, the baptism dates and the baptism place and make sure to list them all in chronological order regardless of where the baptisms took place. I will then take another look and see if I can find some way to help you sort the two families.

CT

[elizbarnes]

Hi Ct,

Does this make it clearer

Parents of the Daniel's
1) Daniel (bpt 19 Jan 1700) married Elizabeth Tresedder -daughter of William Tresseder and Jane Boras
2) Bennet (bpt 12 Sep 1698) married Ann Pascoe -daughter of John and Elizabeth Pascoe

The Daniels-
Daniel bpt 1733 bur 1735
Daniel bpt 1738 bur 1794 or 1800 (still to be confirmed)
Daniel bpt 1742 bur 1843

Married a Loveday in 1764
Married a Loveday in 1765
One was a James and one a Tocker ( Tooker)

Loveday Tocker (Tooker, Tucker) parents Philip and Susanna
Loveday James parents- John and ? Dorothy bpt 1734 in Helston as Lovely James

Children of Daniel and Loveday. Baptised in Wendron, Helston and Sithney


27.10.1764 Jane Wendron
26.8.1764 Thomas Sithney
9.11.1766 Elizabeth Wendron
7.8.1768 Mary Wendron
26.8 1770 Daniel Wendron
30.8.1770 Daniel Wendron
2.8.1772 John Wendron
27. 9. 1772 Loveday Wendron
8.4.1776 Loveday Sithney
15. 9.1776 John Wendron
17.4.1778 Richard Sithney
15.4 1779 William Wendron
5.11.1780 Blanche Helston
28.10.1781 Sarah Wendron
16.4.1784 Philip bur 1817 Helston
31.10.1784 Ann Wendron


Deaths of Loveday Treloar in Wendron
1814 @76 -b abt 1738
1820 @77 b abt 1743
1821 @83 b abt 1738

Loveday Tocker (Tucker) parents Philip Tooker and Susanna Matthews (Philip from Gwinear) currently cant find Lovesay’s baptism
A Loveday Tucker was bapt in 1731 in Gorran to a John and Bridget Tucker/Tooker-however names of children don’t seem to match)
Loveday James parents John James unknown wife. ( Possibilities -Dorothy) (Bpt as Lovely James in Helston)


Another Daniel Treloar married Elizabeth James in 1766 in Wendron, Elizabeth’s parents James and Mary James. Elizabeth bp 1743 bur 1799

Grandparent Names
Thomas Treloar
Ann Jeffrey
John Pascoe
Elizabeth Pearce
William Tresdder
Jane Borras
Elizabeth (Unknown) Tocker
Philip Tocker

-Philip’s sister in law Blanche marries to William Tooker of Gwinear
William and Blanche children-Philip and William. William marries Mary Wheare- their children
Thomas Wheare Tooker 1749
Blanche 1754
William 1755
Blanche 1756
Scipio 1760 (Philip and William had brothers Henry and Scipio, Uncles to this Scipio)
John 1760
Richard 1762
Philip 1763
Henry 1764
Henry 1767
Ann 1770


Elizabeth

[Cornish Terrier]

Hi Elizabeth - I'm afraid I am going to have to ask you to remind me about this one sometime after next Sunday. I am preparing to head up to Northern New South Wales with CFA Strike Teams to assist with the fires up there and won't be back until Sunday. Even then there is no guarantee I can sort the problem out for you but at least I might have a chance to try.
Regards,

CT