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Post by tolencat84 on Nov 19, 2018 10:52:15 GMT -5
Hi
Looking for birth dates for these guys, I have Catherine being born in 1673 (St Just in Penwith) but my dates for John (assuming he was born in Sancreed as that is where they were married) would suggest he is significantly younger than her (b. 1681). Could be correct but double checking.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 19, 2018 14:07:42 GMT -5
Ahhhh! Assumptions!
Seems to me you may be relying a little too much on assumptions - particularly for the time-period and area you are dealing with. That John Hosken married in Sancreed does not necessarily mean he was also born or baptized there. He could equally have been born/baptized at St Just, St Buryan, Paul or Madron which all share borders with Sancreed and I would not rule out Sennen or St Levan either.
In the case of Sennen and St Levan no registers survive prior to 1699 while the other Parishes often have damaged or at least difficult to read pages in registers that early.
I have just looked at the Will of John Leathan of St Just (1715) and there is no indication of how old any of his kinsmen might have been so although John Hosken and Katheren Lethan were married in 1706 they could have been more than 'young newlyweds'.
The term 'kinsman' in those days could mean a cousin (as we know it) or it could mean niece or nephew or even uncle or aunt so you do have to be careful.
I would suggest you spend a little time trying to eliminate John Hosken of 1681 by searching for possible burials or other marriages. You should also hunt around for any other possible Wills that might mention John or Katheren or even possible Wills for themselves.
In other words, if you cannot prove satisfactorily that this IS the right John then try everything you can to see if you can prove that he is NOT. Sooner or later the pieces will fall into place and you will find your answer.
CT
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Post by tolencat84 on Nov 19, 2018 15:46:18 GMT -5
Hi
Thanks for the suggestions, i was slightly overwhelmed by the huge number of hoskin/hoskens in sancreed but i’ll extend my areas and follow your tip and maybe try to prove he isnt the chap im looking for, think i may have gotten excited by the idea of one of my ancestors daring to leave ludgvan, hah.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 19, 2018 17:05:45 GMT -5
It did happen!  In fact there are quite a number of links between Sancreed and Ludgvan that I have found over the years so he could still be one of yours. Problem is that there are so many Hoskin/Hosken/Hosking families about that they get confusing. Nevertheless, if ever you get stuck and cannot prove that someone IS who you think (or would like!) he or she to be then always have a look from the other angle and see if you can prove definitely that he/she CANNOT be the person you are after. CT |
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Post by tolencat84 on Nov 20, 2018 15:59:28 GMT -5
After some careful digging and some artful pruning of the family tree, my Katheren Leathen has turned out to be a Lavinia Rawlings. And i now have the hamlet of Menadarva permanently imprinted on my brain.
Thanks for the hints, really helped to think outside of my assumptions.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 20, 2018 17:32:03 GMT -5
I'm not sure how you managed to get Katheren Leathan out of Lavinia Rawlings but if our discussions have enabled you to weed out an error in your records and make necessary corrections then it is a positive result. CT |
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In fact there are quite a number of links between Sancreed and Ludgvan that I have found over the years so he could still be one of yours. Problem is that there are so many Hoskin/Hosken/Hosking families about that they get confusing.