Samuel Polkinghorne

[zibetha]

Hard to decide where to post this query, but here I go! My cousin who gifted me my DNA test is someone I met while researching my mother's maternal grandfather who had little to no knowledge of his family history. It mostly goes back to colonial America and to the Swiss Alps. Who knew? not me.

My cousin's great-grandmother was my great-grandfather's sister. Until we connected, I thought Jesse (the youngest) was the only child his mother took with her when she married her second husband and left Indiana-- eventually settling in Michigan. My test was with Ancestry.com, and my cousin and I have a solid match on Gedmatch, but after two years of processing are still not connected on Ancestry. Weird. I have many US DNA matches on my great-grandfather's side of the family, but my cousin and don't share them. Tracking those by chromosomes shared has led me to think we are matched on the Cornish side. His ancestors are Parkin/Perkyn/Perkin(s) from Camborne. As I have tried to extend it back, I arrive at the family of Samuel Polkinghorne and Mary Clise married 1672 at Breage, with Samuel having been the son of Henry Polkinghorne and Elizabeth Champion. My problem is that I had said Samuel as the father of a George Polkinghorne 1679 whose mother was named Christian.

I am looking for help identifying the correct Samuel as to Mary (1685) Polkinghorne's father. She married Thomas Bosanko at Crowan in 1708.

Thanks,
Zib

[zibetha]

My cousin is a descendant of William Henry Perkins 1814 and Mary Jane Rule 1816. Her parents were Richard Rule and Mary Dunn (yes, I should look into that further!) Richard was the son or Richard Rule and Honour Bosanko; Honour's parents were William Bosanko and Susanna Hambly. William was the son of Thomas Bosanko 1683 and Mary Polkinghorne.

I know this is a bit of a stretch, but I seem to have many shared DNA matches that link back to the Polkinghornes. I am a descendant of Elinor Polkinhorne and William Kitto.

Zib

[Cornish Terrier]

Hmmm .... this one might take some nutting out!

I can find no record of either marriage in the OPC database and only two children for each Samuel with a third for one of them. Samuel and Christian had sons Thomas and George while Samuel and Mary had son Thomas and daughter Mary. Those were easy enough as the mother's name was recorded however there is a daughter Orpah baptised in 1682 with only the father recorded so ................

The Archdeaconry list shows no Will for any Samuel Polkinghorne (var.) who might be either of the two above and there does not appear to be any Will for a Samuel in the PCC Wills index.

I will try and think more on the problem after I have had some sleep.

CT

[zibetha]

No hurry. The marriage between Samuel P and Mary Clise took place 17 Nov 1672 at Breage, but the first child I find is son Thomas in 1680. Something's wrong with this picture.

Zib

[Cornish Terrier]

I've just been looking a the Breage PR and found the 1672 marriage. Seems there is a lot of early stuff not transcribed for the OPC as yet so it is a case of relying on FS for initial information and then working through the PRs and BTs.
However, in looking at the PR baptisms it appears there is either a gap or that some entries are in a different part of the book. Baptisms for the early part of 1657 are at the top of a page followed by a note in Latin and then three more 1656 entries which finish about 2/3rds down that page.
Immediately following this are the entries for 1678 to 1700 but no child of Samuel P until Thomas in 1680. Then follows marriages from 1599 to 1656 and again a gap until 1678 through 1700. Next come burials from 1678 to 1682 after which we get the commencement of burials from 1599 onwards.

So baptisms from 1657 to 1677 seem to be missing.

Checking the BTs 1676 onwards and I just found one more entry:-

Thomas son of Samuel Polkinhorne and Christian his wife baptised 12th September 1676 - he was buried 19th September 1676.

Next BT is 1681 but the PR shows no more children before 1680 to either Samuel P.

Exeter BTs cover up to 1673 (with many gaps) but there are no children to Samuel P. 1674 and 1675 are not covered by Exeter or Bodmin BTs.

That still leaves us pretty much with the same dilemma!

Ian