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Post by deejay8 on May 12, 2016 18:20:16 GMT -5
Hi everyone, my name is David Jones, but my birth surname was Williams. My father died when I was 6, and my surname was changed when my mother remarried a few years later. I was born in Hayle and lived in Cannonstown until I was 11,when we moved to Helston. When I was 14 we moved away from Cornwall to Southampton. My sister moved back to Cornwall last year and now lives in Newton In St Martin.I now live in Romsey, Hampshire.My heart will always be in Cornwall though.
My father Clifford Williams was born in Penzance , his family originally comes from the St Buryan area. I am descended from the Wallis,Harvey,Crocker,Carne,Semmens,Gilbart and Treloar families with many other Cornish families featuring in my ancestry on my fathers side. My mother was from Chester and is of Irish descent.
I'm currently working on tracing my ancestry and looking into my Cornish heritage. It would be great to connect with others who hail from that wonderful part of the world.
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Post by Isambard on May 14, 2016 11:30:47 GMT -5
Hello David,
You may find the recent thread on this site "The Newtons of Canon's Town" of interest, given that you lived in Canon's Town as a youngster. My Cornish family connections include Newtons, Quicks and Semmens, centered mainly in west Cornwall, with Semmens' also in Lancashire. Feel free to contact me via private message through this site. Cheers, Isambard
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Post by deejay8 on May 15, 2016 6:49:20 GMT -5
Hi Isambard, thanks for the welcome. We lived in Canonstown,but we were not from there originally,although I have some ancestors from surrounding villages such as Lelant,Towednack,Ludgvan and Zennor. We rented a house up Heather Lane which was owned by the Tregarthen family who owned a lot of land and property in the village. Most of my family came from Penzance and further west around St Buryan,St Levan, and St Just.
I haven't looked too closely into the Semmens ancestry yet,but my 2nd Great Grandmother was Emma Semmens,wife of William Crocker and daughter of Joseph Semmens.
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Post by Isambard on May 16, 2016 11:17:51 GMT -5
Hi Isambard, thanks for the welcome. We lived in Canonstown,but we were not from there originally,although I have some ancestors from surrounding villages such as Lelant,Towednack,Ludgvan and Zennor. We rented a house up Heather Lane which was owned by the Tregarthen family who owned a lot of land and property in the village. Most of my family came from Penzance and further west around St Buryan,St Levan, and St Just. I haven't looked too closely into the Semmens ancestry yet,but my 2nd Great Grandmother was Emma Semmens,wife of William Crocker and daughter of Joseph Semmens. David, a bit of family history follows: My 2nd great grandfather, James Dunstan (Sr.), leased the house and farm on the north east corner of Heather Lane and the Turnpike Road (A30) from Canon John Rogers (the Canon of Canon's Town), in time for the 1841 census. The house, then known as Ivy Cottage, was purchased from the Rogers family by Mary Thomas Quick, James Dunstan's granddaughter, on her father's (James Jr.) death in 1906. My father was born In Ivy Cottage in 1910. On Mary Thomas Quick's death the property was sold in 1924, to Joseph Rowe, a neighbour. The property was again sold in 1946 to Mrs. Carrie Humphrys. About this time the house was renamed Old Barn Cottage, it's current name. I have a family group photo taken in front of Ivy Cottage taken about 1895, the old barn appearing in the background. Old Barn Cottage as it is today, without the ivy or the old barn, is clearly seen via Google Earth. My family and I enjoyed an interesting afternoon visit with the owners of Old Barn Cottage during a visit to Cornwall in 2005. Isambard
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Post by deejay8 on May 16, 2016 15:38:20 GMT -5
Hi Isambard, I can't recall that property very well,but I think the hedge around it was quite high. I think I remember being able to see the property and it's garden from the pavement alongside the A30. The house directly opposite that house belonged to a family friend called Doreen. We lived first in Fernycroft,a small cottage about two thirds up the lane,and still named the same,but much extended these days. Then we moved about 80 metres down the lane to a large house called Meadowside,now renamed Wheal Meath. There are houses all the way up the lane now,but when we lived there ,the houses were quite well spaced with fields along a lot of the lane. Most of the properties north of Canons Villa (owned by the Atrill family and run as a cattery when we lived there), were owned by the Tregarthen family who owned the farm at the top of the lane. The farm is long gone,all the land sold for the houses that now lining the lane all the way up. The Tregarthens house Goran House is still there and named the same. My sister has recently moved back to Cornwall so I will have plenty of chances to revisit Canonstown. We had a quick drive up there last year to see the old place.
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Post by Isambard on May 16, 2016 22:47:51 GMT -5
Hi Isambard, I can't recall that property very well,but I think the hedge around it was quite high. I think I remember being able to see the property and it's garden from the pavement alongside the A30. The house directly opposite that house belonged to a family friend called Doreen. We lived first in Fernycroft,a small cottage about two thirds up the lane,and still named the same,but much extended these days. Then we moved about 80 metres down the lane to a large house called Meadowside,now renamed Wheal Meath. There are houses all the way up the lane now,but when we lived there ,the houses were quite well spaced with fields along a lot of the lane. Most of the properties north of Canons Villa (owned by the Atrill family and run as a cattery when we lived there), were owned by the Tregarthen family who owned the farm at the top of the lane. The farm is long gone,all the land sold for the houses that now lining the lane all the way up. The Tregarthens house Goran House is still there and named the same. My sister has recently moved back to Cornwall so I will have plenty of chances to revisit Canonstown. We had a quick drive up there last year to see the old place. Ivy Cottage as it was circa 1895 was enclosed by a white-washed stone wall, topped by wrought iron fencing along the front facing the Turnpike Road (A30). The wall is still there, now covered by a hedge of varying height. The property on the west side of Heather Lane, across from Ivy Cottage on the corner, was occupied by the little First Wesleyan Chapel, from 1843 when it was built, until superseded by the Canon's Town Methodist Church, opened in 1878 and located several hundred metres further west on the Turnpike Road. The Canon's Town Dunstans, Quicks and Newtons were members of the church, which was converted to condo/apartments some years ago. The Tregarthen name appears in the 1978 history of the church, in connection with a 1942 tea and sports event.
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Post by deejay8 on May 17, 2016 5:40:39 GMT -5
I never knew that the house that "Auntie" Doreen lived in was the original chapel. The newer chapel was still in use as a place of worship when I lived in Canonstown in the 1960s and 70s. There was a small village shop about 150m up the hill from the chapel, which is now a jewellery workshop. Heather Lane has a lot more houses on it than it used to with all the properties built and sold by Bruce Tregarthen after he gave up farming. The Tregarthens now live in one of those new houses,the one that sits directly next to my old house Meadowside/Wheal Merth.The lane still has the same feel as when I lived there. Returning always feels strange as I feel like a giant and the distances seem much smaller than when I lived there. I assume Canons Villa was the home of the Canon? Sadly I don't remember any of the family names you mentioned. I'm sure my Mum would have been able to place some of them,but she passed away back in 2013.
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Post by Isambard on May 18, 2016 20:32:14 GMT -5
I never knew that the house that "Auntie" Doreen lived in was the original chapel. The newer chapel was still in use as a place of worship when I lived in Canonstown in the 1960s and 70s. There was a small village shop about 150m up the hill from the chapel, which is now a jewellery workshop. Heather Lane has a lot more houses on it than it used to with all the properties built and sold by Bruce Tregarthen after he gave up farming. The Tregarthens now live in one of those new houses,the one that sits directly next to my old house Meadowside/Wheal Merth.The lane still has the same feel as when I lived there. Returning always feels strange as I feel like a giant and the distances seem much smaller than when I lived there. I assume Canons Villa was the home of the Canon? Sadly I don't remember any of the family names you mentioned. I'm sure my Mum would have been able to place some of them,but she passed away back in 2013. Ivy Cottage and the land leased form Canon Rogers by James Dunstan occupied three small irregular shape areas along Heather Lane plus a larger pasture area to the north east. In the 1841 census the Dunstan's neighbours included the families of Joseph Allen, Copper Miner, Francis Hinman, Copper Miner, John Rowe, Butcher and Thomas Boase, Tin Miner. In the 1842 Tithe map, further along Heather Lane and to the east of the Dunstans, land was occupied by Ben Warmington and Zachariah William. In the 1848 Rogers-Dunstan lease, the Dunstan land was bordered by the Turnpike Road on the south, by Richard and Samual Blight on the east, William Odgers on the north and William Ruberry on the west. In a book titled "A Popular Dictionary of Cornish Place Names,by O.J. Padel, the following extract: Canons Town 1839, Canonstown 1870. A 19th Century village, named after John Rogers (1778-1856) of Penrose near Helston, Canon of Exeter Cathedral. He was an "energetic landlord", botanist, mineralogist, and biblical scholar.. His family had long had lands in the parish of Ludgvan, and this village was presumably planned by him" Of the two Newtons still resident in Canon's Town in 1945, I've found that Sarah Ellen (Nellie) Newton died in 1970, at Park Villa, Canon's Town. Perhaps a senior's home? George Henry Newton, Nellie's brother, died in 1974 in Moffats Corner, Nancegollan, Sithney. Good luck in your family search. I see that others are leaping in to help you. Many years ago I worked with a Bill Treloar, definitely a Brit, although I don't recall if he was Cornish.
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