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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2014 20:46:18 GMT -5
Around 1800 John Glasson took over the operation of Polpeor Farm from his father in law Edmund Uren. Joseph and William, two of his sons are found there in the early census and the last Glasson to farm at Polpeor was James Glasson who in 1892 eventually sold what he was entitled to sell for 300 pounds and after converting that money to whisky he died a poor man in the Workhouse around 1900.
The farm passed to the Olds family who were eventually able to purchase the farm outright for 2,500 pounds in 1922 and they still control the operation of the farm today with it being leased out. The farm is too small now (40 acres or so) to be a viable farming unit on its own.
I was fortunate enough last week to spend part of a day with Ralph Olds who farmed Polpeor after his father - Ralph being well retired now.... we went round the farm and the first thing I was to learn was that the original dwelling had been demolished and a few stones could be seen in an old aerial photograph of the farm - it being situated to the right of the present house. For anyone visiting Polpeor Farm the house stood where now stands a large caravan. The farm buildings across the road from the house have been sold and are partially developed as I understand.
In our tour there were three items of interest that I was not previously aware of. First was the story that a mine collapse under one of the paddocks still contains the remains of 23 miners who were working there at the time. The second is the capping of a 100 fathom (600 feet) vertical access to a mine during the second world war and it is said that the opening was loosely covered with nearby foliage and then a concrete mix poured over it. It is said that it rained before the sub standard concrete mix set. But to this day animals can be found warming themselves from the concrete oblivious of the inherent possibility of a drop. The third item is a small clearing along the farm where tin was transported away from the farm during the second world war.
I enjoyed afternoon tea with Ralph and Patricia at nearby Ninnis where they live and they were keen to show me where part of their lawn had collapsed due to an adit below the lawn finally giving away after the recent heavy rains - this was apparently not the first instance of collapses in the area.
It was an extremely enjoyable day despite the rain and I learnt more in that afternoon that I have previously learnt about the farm in total.
Lannanta
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Post by sue on Mar 30, 2014 6:42:44 GMT -5
Fantastic.
During my 2009 trip I had an impromptu wee chat with the Olds - or perhaps their son & his wife - & we talked about the current difficulties of farming up there & alternative occupations, also the achievement of the ancestors raising the large sum of £2500 to purchase Polpeor. But obviously nothing as detailed as your time spent with them!
I put together a little family history & sent it through, and have a nice thankyou Christmas card I've kept, somewhere.....
I also have a wee pamphlet, also somewhere, that one of the Polpeor hamlet residents put together about the mine shafts etc around Polpeor, which didn't mean a lot to me back then but perhaps might now; I found people up there were very interested in the localised history even when they were relative "incomers". I can remember each of the people who kindly talked to us with their interesting snippets (prompted by initial suspicion as we took photographs of places our ancestors had lived/mined/farmed).
Hope you've had a great trip, and I'm envious!
Sue
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2014 19:04:57 GMT -5
Hello Sue
I would very much like to see a copy of that if possible?
Lannanta
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Post by sue on Mar 31, 2014 3:48:38 GMT -5
Hi Lannanta Yesterday when I re-read what I'd written, it did occur to me that I would be needing to find out where that "somewhere" in my piles of papers that pamphlet is lurking.....  Will get on the case.  Sue |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2014 3:56:40 GMT -5
Sue
I hope you are successful
Lannanta
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Post by tenpoundpom on Apr 18, 2014 2:54:42 GMT -5
Around 1800 John Glasson took over the operation of Polpeor Farm from his father in law Edmund Uren. Joseph and William, two of his sons are found there in the early census and the last Glasson to farm at Polpeor was James Glasson who in 1892 eventually sold what he was entitled to sell for 300 pounds and after converting that money to whisky he died a poor man in the Workhouse around 1900. Lannanta My connection is through John's wife, Elizabeth Trewhella, who is an aunt of some description. I hae been trying to work out the children and I'd be grtaeful for any extra information about William. Possible baptism record 1802, with mother being misnamed as "Susannah" (thanks to Kathie for posting that on the web years ago). I then have him marrying Margaret Grenfell 30 Nov 1824. But by 1841, at Polpear, (although relationships are not recorded), the wife seem to be Elizabeth, with likely children being Elizabeth (abt 1830), Josiah (abt 1831), Mary (abt 1833) and William (abt 1834.) I have a William Glasson marrying Elizabeth Curgenven at Towednack 19 August 1828. Did Margaret die and William remarry? Or have I got my William Glassons mixed up? William (of Polpear)has an older brother John who is a blacksmith/ innkeeper in St Ives. In the 1851 census he seems to have Josiah Glasson in the household as a "journeyman" and an Elizabeth who is described as a niece. I suspect that this Elizabeth is the daughter of his brother Jackey however! I'm sure CT and Lannanta have trod this road before! I haven't finished looking at the records, but happy to be gently pointed towards the correct path if I'm going wildly off track! Simon |
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Post by sue on Apr 18, 2014 3:16:38 GMT -5
Hi Tenpoundpom
John 1749 married into the Urens at Polpeor; it was his son John 1777 who married Elizabeth Trewhella.
I will leave Lannanta & CT to explain your other confusions! (I think you'll find that Lannanta found William the husband of Margaret Grenfell left her in England and ended his days in Queensland....) It's good that the ancestors re-used family names as it helps us to identify children/siblings - but the flipside is that several uncles & cousins of the same name sure causes some head scratching!
(Jakeh Glasson 1805 of John Glasson & Elizabeth Trewhella is my 4xGfather, & probably my favourite ancestor, the last of the brothers to run the pub The Cornish Arms at Trelyon, still there at his death in 1893 as "the genial old landlord" per his obituary.)
Sue
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Post by tenpoundpom on Apr 18, 2014 4:22:03 GMT -5
Hi Tenpoundpom John 1749 married into the Urens at Polpeor; it was his son John 1777 who married Elizabeth Trewhella. I will leave Lannanta & CT to explain your other confusions! (I think you'll find that Lannanta found William the husband of Margaret Grenfell left her in England and ended his days in Queensland....) It's good that the ancestors re-used family names as it helps us to identify children/siblings - but the flipside is that several uncles & cousins of the same name sure causes some head scratching! (Jakeh Glasson 1805 of John Glasson & Elizabeth Trewhella is my 4xGfather, & probably my favourite ancestor, the last of the brothers to run the pub The Cornish Arms at Trelyon, still there at his death in 1893 as "the genial old landlord" per his obituary.) Sue Thanks for your speedy reply. Yes I did have John snr as marrying Christian Uren, and then John jnr marrying Elizabeth Trewhella. There is much more for me to fathom! Jaketh is a first cousin, though somewhat removed! |
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Post by sue on Apr 18, 2014 6:16:43 GMT -5
In terms of information about William Glasson 1802 son of John Glasson & Elizabeth Trewhella, he is not the chap 1841 at Lelant with Elizabeth, that's his cousin.
William 1802 is I think out of the country 1841; at any rate, his wife Margaret is at Trelyon with children William & John; she is next door to brother-in-law John Glasson & his wife Jane (Jennings).
1851 the family is at Stoke Climsland then 1861 Plymouth. Then you should find him in the Queensland death indices; wife Margaret being in Devon 1871/1881.
Hope that helps.
Sue
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 19:48:55 GMT -5
Simon I have this among other things concerning William born 1802.
Even though he was not born in Plymouth as we know, he did in fact emigrate to Australia from there.
Kind regards
Lannanta
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Post by tenpoundpom on Apr 19, 2014 3:35:44 GMT -5
Thanks so much Sue and Lannanta for shining some light towards the correct path! Simon |
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Post by roadrunner on Apr 19, 2014 6:22:45 GMT -5
Hello Sue &Simon ,. John Glasson [Wheal Kitty] married 1770 Christine Christian Uren at Lelant[Pilimores]
Re Pub landlords
One&All 1856 John Glasson
Renamed Cornish Arms 1873,1881,1883/1893 Jaketh Glasson
Union Inn St Ives 1881 William Glasson
Re Polpear visit , down the road from the old farm buildings stands a property was PolpearWesleyan Chapel 1831.seating 142
My Interest John /Christine Uren5th G/parents
John/Elizabeth Trewhella 4th
Jaketh/PhillipaQuick 3rd [sue 4th]
Phillipa/NicholasWedge Chard 2nd
WilliamThomasChard/GraceRichards Paull 1st
Phillipa Chard /Samuel John Thomas my parents.
have been searching Richard Noall Fiji and located him and young brother on a ship in Austrialian
Waters in1876 [just checking some details and will post]
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 18:27:49 GMT -5
If there is anything I can help you with just ask.. being the male that I am then I am better with answering specific questions than writing a book..
Lannanta
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