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Post by londoner on Dec 11, 2018 3:25:03 GMT -5
Crankan was his mother's maiden name, baptised 1799 son of Peter and Mary who married at Paul in 1796
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Post by white on Dec 11, 2018 4:56:33 GMT -5
There were Crankens in Paul and Madron. Check on Cornwall opc White
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Post by marychown on Dec 11, 2018 5:21:19 GMT -5
There is an ancient settlement called Lower Crankan at New Mill in Madron parish which is just a stone's throw from the late Iron Age settlement of Chysauster. Crankan is a family name which appears predominantly in Paul parish records but occasionally in the parish records of Madron and St. Buryan since the late 16th/early 17th century. There was a marriage between Hugo Mortimer and Johanna Cranke at Kilkhampton near Bude in North Cornwall in 1579 and on 2 December 1605 Richard Crankan s/o John was baptised at Paul. The name has also been recorded in parish records as Cranken. The name Crankan/Cranken could possibly have originally been Scottish as Mccranken is a Scottish surname. The name Crankan appears in one of my own family lines where Nicholas Pentreath married Dorothy Crankan at Paul on 3 January 1706.
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Post by zibetha on Dec 11, 2018 7:43:25 GMT -5
Glad my comment provoked these responses,cousins!
I grew up with the idea that my paternal grandfather had no middle name and invented one. That turned out to be untrue. "J J" (Julius/Jules) turned out to be Jacobus Julianus" (grandmother's name Julia thus the Julianus) He was Belgian, and the government changed from time to time with names sometimes in French, so he was was also known as "Gillot." That threw me for a loop.
I consider all possibilities when it comes to names. Many of my more recent relatives were known by their middle names.
Zib
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Post by zibetha on Dec 11, 2018 7:51:22 GMT -5
My point being that a name like Crankan means something Zib
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Post by Glazin2018 on Dec 11, 2018 14:02:40 GMT -5
Zib
It is interesting that the name "Crankan" was not used by Elias in any of the census and it would be fair to wonder if it was ever used following his baptism. It was the Crankan family that introduced the christian name Elias to the Glasson family in this part of Cornwall.
Lannanta
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Post by Glazin2018 on Jan 17, 2019 19:37:21 GMT -5
CT
I can confirm that the younger Elias married three times.
1844 to Jane SYMONS Elias had recorded that he was a bachelor and that his father Elias, a fisherman, was dead.
1858 to Mary ANGWIN Elias had recorded that he was a bachelor and that his father Elias was a fisherman - no mention of him being dead.
1866 to Mary Ann Jane JEFFERY Elias had recorded that he was a widower and that his father Elias was a fisherman, was deceased.
Given that the 1844 was either thought to be correct at the time, or was simply an error, it is now likely that the senior Elias died between 1858 and 1866.
Lannanta
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 18, 2019 4:14:22 GMT -5
Thanks Lannanta - too tired to do much about this right now but have added the marriages using FreeBMD data. Will catch up on any other details you might have found some time later.
CT
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Post by Glazin2018 on Oct 29, 2023 2:50:06 GMT -5
Firstly Zib, Elias Crankan Glasson was named from his mother Mary But hold onto your horses, it is most unlikely that Elias was still alive in 1851 as we are led to believe
Lannanta
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