Richard Wilcocks Glasson

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I am interested in Richard Wilcocks Glasson who married Christiana Clemo some time prior to the 1841 census. Their son Alfred Wilcocks was born around 1838 at Plymouth, Devon.

Lannanta

[Cornish Terrier]

Lannanta - you have me confused!

Thread titled RICHARD Wilcocks Glasson.

Question about JOHN Wilcocks Glasson.

Which are we looking at?

CT

[Cornish Terrier]

All I can find is this entry in FreeBMD:-

Births Mar 1838 (>99%)
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Glasson Alfred Wilcocks Plymouth 9 395


I cannot find John/Richard and/or Christiana and I can find none of the family in the 1841 or 1851 Census.

In fact, other than the above, I can find no reference to any member of this family anywhere including UK Census, FreeBMD, Online Family Trees, Google Search.

Maybe a little more information might be handy!

CT

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Morning Lannanta

E-mail me and I can give you some more info about Alfred

Lamorna

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CT

Silly me - I meant Richard Wilcocks Glasson and his wife Christiana nee Clemo - sorry about that.

They were certainly at St Andrews in Plymouth in 1838 when Alfred was born but as you say - they disappeared. Alfred died very soon after his birth - aged 1 year.

Lannanta

[Cornish Terrier]

Lannanta - but I still have no idea who Richard Wilcocks Glasson is or where he is from. I can find absolutely no mention of him anywhere.

CT

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Me neither mate.... I was looking at another Cornwall family living in Devon when I stumbled across his name.... he is certainly a mystery at the moment.... as usual something is nagging but I cannot put my finger on it at the moment.....

It has to do with a marriage in 1840 in Devon between Christian Glasson and John Wilcocks.....

[Glazin2018]

Good morning, I would just like to do a quick review of this thread in case someone reading it can add something to lessen the confusion.

It starts with a birth for Alfred Wilcocks Glasson on the 26th December 1837 at Buckwell Street, Parish of St Andrews, Plymouth.  The male child is stated to be the son of Richard Wilcocks Glasson, a farmer, and Christiana Glasson, formerly Clemo.  The informant at the birth was Christiana Glasson of Buckwell Street, the mother.  The birth was registered on the 21st January 1838.

As previously mentioned there is no further mention or record of a Richard Wilcocks Glasson, either before or after this birth event for Alfred.

Following on is the death of Alfred Wilcocks Glasson on the 27th February 1839 at 51 Gibbons Street, Parish of St Charles the Martyr, Plymouth District, a male, aged 14 months, son of Richard Wilcocks Glasson.  Informant was Robert Glasson of 51 Gibbons Street, an uncle, who was in attendance.  Death was registered on the 28th February 1839.

Richard Wilcocks Glasson and a wife named Christiana have not appeared in any documentation after this death for Alfred.

However, uncle Robert Glasson is easy enough to find in the 1841, 1851 & 1861 census, in the Charles the Martyr Parish, married in 1832 in the St Andrews Parish to Mary LOVIS.  This Robert was born in Cornwall in 1802 at Newlyn East, the son of Robert Glasson and Jane CLEMO.  Uncle Robert Glasson did have a brother Richard, however that Richard married Susan PEARCE at St. Austell on 1837 and they had a son in December of that year, before both Richard and Susan died in 1841 leaving two infants as orphans.

Uncle Robert Glasson also had a sister, Christiana Glasson, baptised at Newlyn East on the 24th March 1815.  This Christiana Glasson married John Wilcocks as below:

Marriage on the 31st March 1840 at the Parish Church, Stoke Damerel, Devon
John Wilcocks, of full age, bachelor, porter of 24 St Johns Street, son of George Wilcocks, a carrier.
Christiana Glasson, of full age, spinster of 24 St Johns Street, daughter of Robert Glasson, a farmer.
Witnesses: Thomas Pomery, Grace Alger.

Christiana lived her entire married life at Saltash and died there in 1897.  Her husband, John Wilcocks, predeceased Christiana in 1875 at Saltash.  In the 1861 census John and Christiana Wilcocks had 14 year old Dorcas C. Glasson living with them as a boarder - this was Dorcas Clogg Glasson, their niece and daughter of Christiana's brother John Glasson.

So, at the moment it looks to me as if Richard Wilcocks GLASSON most likely never existed, that a Richard WILCOCKS may have existed, and if he did may have been a relation to John WILCOCKS.  It also seems likely that the mother of Alfred Wilcocks GLASSON born in 1837 was Christiana GLASSON, of Newlyn East, who stated her birth surname to be CLEMO, which was in fact the birth name of her mother Jane.

Appreciate your thoughts and any additional information.

[Cornish Terrier]

Lannanta - I had decided to re-read the earlier posts and have a look around a few resources before reading your latest post just so that I could refamiliarize myself and, pontentially, find some of use.

I was descending into rampant puzzlement once again before throwing the switch and moving on to a different track. As I began to read your latest I noticed the details of the death certificate for Alfred W Glasson and, in particular, the mention of uncle Robert Glasson and with that I meandered my way back to the family at Newlyn East and arrived at the same conclusion you appear to have come to.

Christiana Glasson, using her mother's maiden name, was the mother of Alfred Willcocks Glasson.

I have not looked at the Willcocks family but I wonder if the Richard Willcocks (Glasson) named as the father might have been a brother to John Willcocks. I had thought possible it may have been the name of the father of John Willcocks but I see from the marriage record that he was named as George.

I will update my database accordingly from the marriage record which I have found in FamilySearch and from the birth and death details you have provided for Alfred. You may have already found it but here is the record of burial for Alfred:-

Devon, Charles, Burials 1832-1841
1st March 1839 Alfred Willcocks Glasson of Gibbon's Street infant

CT