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Post by pgilbart on Dec 12, 2012 22:21:59 GMT -5
It's been a while, so I thought I'd ask again.... Still can't find death record for Thomas James Gilbart, born 13 June 1815 in St. Erth, married to Mary Jane Rogers. Thomas' parents were John Gilbart b 1760 and Elizabeth Huthnance.
Thomas and family are on the 1851, 61 and 71 census records at Tremelling House. In 1881, Upper Tremelling is empty. On the census I found Thomas and Jane's children (grown) at other locations with inlaws and other relatives.
In 1882, Thomas' wife Jane moved to Ontario with daughter Annie.
But I haven't found a death or probate record for Thomas - any info out there?
Cheers, PG
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Dec 13, 2012 4:48:36 GMT -5
I can also find no trace of a death/burial record in Cornwall which opens the possibility that Thomas may have also left the UK sometime after the 1871 Census. Regardless of stories it is possible that he was already in Canada before his family left England so perhaps you should investigate some options in that area. You would also do well to refine any searches and give yourself a chance of success by getting the names correct. I mentioned in early posts that Thomas was not Thomas James and Jane was not Mary Jane! I don't know how you came to add the second names but Thomas was baptised and married simply as 'Thomas' and likewise Jane was just plain Jane in both baptism and marriage records! CT
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Post by pgilbart on Dec 13, 2012 7:56:54 GMT -5
Yes, I've used Thomas and Jane in my searches since you gave me that information last year. The middle names came from my grandmother - don't know where she got them! Were you able to track the Iveys to the US? If not, I have some US census info to add for William Trewhella and George Arthur Ivy. There is a free BMD Penzance death record (vol 5c, p 185) for a Thomas Gilb ert Oct-Nov-Dec 1879, 68 years old. This is the closest I've found. I will pursue the immigration possibility some more. Thanks!
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Dec 13, 2012 9:20:53 GMT -5
Okay, that's good - I just wanted to make sure you were on the right track. I am not sure at the moment exactly where I am up to with this Ivey clan but I will try and check later in the day. Once I have done that I will have a better idea of what I might need. Thomas Gilbert - I looked at that record also but from memory he was buried at St Hilary where there were other Gilberts. That is why I suggested the possibility Thomas may have also gone abroad. CT
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Post by seadog on Dec 17, 2020 14:20:53 GMT -5
Yes, that would make sense. And it would be another example of errors that can be found in Death Certificates and Burial Records. And now from 'rcollman':- And neither do I says me sharing your confusion! What further information do you have on these two boys? If they were grandchildren of James and Jane Rogers then they must have emigrated as infants or at least as young children. Mary Rogers was born around 1830/1 and baptised in 1835 and Census records indicate she was not married until the early-mid 1850s. CT
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Post by seadog on Dec 17, 2020 14:23:25 GMT -5
This query is pretty ancient now ... but I have a lot of information on those Iveys including dates from a family bible and how the boys got on in the USA - anyone still interested?
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Dec 18, 2020 13:33:42 GMT -5
Given the Trewhella connection then yes, I am certainly interested. Expanding the knowledge of families connected to Trewhellas often helps find more information about the earlier generations.
CT
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Post by anneyoungau on Jan 20, 2022 0:11:45 GMT -5
This query is pretty ancient now ... but I have a lot of information on those Iveys including dates from a family bible and how the boys got on in the USA - anyone still interested? I would be interested to hear
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