Terdinny

[tonymitch]

Having had my curiosity kicked into life by the thread about John Wesley and St Just, I have been re reading my abridged version of his Journal. He wrote a letter dated 14th July 1747 from Terdinny in Buryan Parish.

Anyone any idea where this is? I can find no other reference to it other than Wesley's letter.

[marychown]

Tony,

Tredinney Farm near Crows-an-Wra (which is on the A30 between Penzance and Lands End) springs to mind. In the Cornish language TRE sometimes became TER. Tredinney would also be in St. Buryan parish. There is also a Cardinney nearby, which was a farm and which is now a campsite, but I think that Tredinney is your best bet.

Regards,

Mary

PS

Since writing the above I have found an on-line reference to 'Tredinny' and John Wesley:

wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/editors-introductory-notes-1747/

[londoner]

And according to Jim Hosking's book, People Place & Past Events in St Buryan Wesley's host at Tredinney was Martin Wallish. In the diary for Sunday 7 Sept 1766 is a further mention of St Buryan and an "irate gentleman" later identified as the Squire Francis Paynter of Boskenna

[tonymitch]

Thank you Ladies......Why on earth I didn't think of reversing Ter and Tre Goodness only knows! Found it on my map. Unfortunately, my 'Abridged' version does not mention the 1766 visit.

Mary, the on-line reference you quote is exactly the one referred to in the Journal I have. The Incumbent of St Buryan had been telling folk that John Wesley had asked for £100... "and it must be raised directly". Wesley's letter to the 'Reverend Sir' states that this is a load of hogwash and he is surprised that the Rev. Sir is ..."so totally devoid....of good nature as to credit such a tale and of good manners and common sense, as thus to repeat it"

[londoner]

to continue - the irate gent was shaking his whip at Mr John Wallis (1721) of Crella saying " Ah John, you scoundrel, you couldn't come to the proper service but you can come up to listyen to that rogue Wesley"

[getafish460]

"and it must be raised directly". would that be the English - "Directly" -meaning as soon as is humanly possible, or the Cornish - "Dreckly"- meaning When I can get round to it?
I still use the term in my everyday speech, which can be a little confusing for the English whom I work with. Those that haven't had it explained to them.
Cornishmen always do it Dreckly!

[tonymitch]

Sorry, me exiled 'ansum! The full quote shows that it was the Rev John Wesley who uses the word 'Directly' and it appears to mean 'immediately' if not sooner.....(I assume 'Dreckly' is the Cornish equivalent to the engineering appliance the Towhit, which comes in both rectangular and circular versions. These result in the affirmation to "She who shall be obeyed" that a certain household function will be accomplished as soon as I can "Get a round towhit")

Back to matters theological. Wesley writes....

"Mon 13th July 1747. I preached at Terdinny, in Buryan parish, where was a large and earnest congregation, notwithstanding the wonderful stories which they have frequently heard related in the pulpit for certain truths. In the morning I wrote as follows:- Terdinny July 14 1747. "Rev. Sir, - I was exceedingly surprised when I was informed yesterday of your affirming publicly in the church, in the face of the whole congregation, 'Now Wesley has sent down for an hundred pounds; and it must be raised directly. Nay, it is true'........Wesley refutes this and asks for the Rev Sir to...either justify or retract this (for it is a point of no small concern); and that I may know what you propose to do, before I set out for London....

He then adds..."But he never favoured me with an answer"