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Post by paulsymons on Aug 29, 2011 11:19:04 GMT -5
Hi All,
Im looking for more info on a John HOdge Symons and his parents and any further back. Heres what i have so far John HOdge was bord as far as i can tell in Budock 16 May 1824.
BUt cant find any confirmed sources for his parents, but i hav stumbled across the following
John Pascoe Symons / semmons / saemons (30 march 1800 Budock) etc married an elizabeth hodge (1801) (which would explain john hodge symons middle name) on 16 June 1822 in st Gluvias.
BUt thats it, would love to see if i could go back any further or confirm any of this, any guidance or pointers would be great.
Many Thanks
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 30, 2011 2:38:16 GMT -5
Paul - I don't know where the Pascoe name comes from but I can tell you that it does not appear in the marriage record. John SYMONS married Elizabeth HODGE 16th June 1822 at St Gluvias by Banns. Both were recorded as being 'of the Parish' and both signed with their 'mark'. I cannot make out the names of the witnesses satisfactorily but the first was James [?] and the second was Philip (possible Moore). Neither name is Symons or Hodge but they don't appear to be related. According to a transcript of the Budock Church Register John Symons was a 'feltmonger' at the time John Hodge Symons was baptised in 1824. I was curious about the occupation 'feltmonger' as I have never heard of it. And perhaps there is a reason that I had never heard of it!  Looking for more children to John and Elizabeth Symons and I found:- Aaron s/o John and Betsy SYMONDS, 'Fish Monger' of Budock baptised in 1829. (This transcript does not have dates other than the years.) So I wonder now if 'feltmonger' might be a transcription error and John was actually the 'fishmonger'. If that is the case then the naming of a son Aaron might be the clue you need.  Hmm - then again!  The next child I find to John and Elizabeth SYMONDS is daughter Elizabeth Jane and this time the transcript shows that John was a 'Fellmonger'!  CT |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 30, 2011 3:44:08 GMT -5
Well - things seem to be on the move!  I am now certain that the name Aaron belongs and I just noticed that John Hodge Symons and his wife Alice named their third child Aaron. But there is more! I had a search of the 1841 Census to see if I could find the family of John and Elizabeth and I now think it might be possible to identify John Symons. 1841 Census Saffron Court, Budock George BECKERLEG, 40, gardener Elizabeth do., 40 John SYMONDS, 15, shoe maker's apprentice Aron do., 12 Richard do., 6 Elizabeth do., 2 Aron SYMONDS, 35, tanner Looks suspiciuosly like the family I was describing earlier?  George BECKERLEG, 39, bachelor, gardener of Budock (son of John Beckerleg, gardener) married Elizabeth SYMONS, 40, widow (daughter of John, labourer) 21st November 1840 at Budock. So John Symonds died and Elizabeth remarried! No sign of a burial for John so far and perhaps it has not been transcribed yet so the next step will be to try and find baptisms for all his children. CT |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 30, 2011 4:45:42 GMT -5
After further investigation it now appears that you might be indeed looking at John Pascoe Symons to be the husband of Elizabeth Hodge. First of all is the occupation which I can now verify. At least four children were baptised at St Gluvias and in each case the occupation is entered in the Parish Register as 'felt monger'. The children of John and Elizabeth are as follows:- John Symons bp. 25th December 1822 St Gluvias (of Penryn) and buried 29th June 1823 at Budock John Hodge Simmons bp. 16th May 1824 Budock Aaron Symons bp. 5th February 1826 St Gluvias (of Budock) and buried 14th April 1829 at Budock Aaron Symonds bp. 24th May 1829 Budock Elizabeth Symons bp. 13th October 1833 St Gluvias (of Budock) and buried 28th September 1836 at Budock Richard Symons bp. 24th July 1835 St Gluvias (of Budock) Elizabeth Jane Symonds bp. 13th November 1838 Budock As you can see the four surviving children (John, Aaron, Richard and Elizabeth) are those appearing in the 1841 Census with George Beckerleg. With the possibility of a posthumous baptism for Elizabeth I began my search for a burial for John Symons at 1836 and there is only one possibility:- John Pascoe Symons buried 12th June 1839 at Budock (from FamilySearch) Given this is from FamilySearch there is no further information recorded so we don't know his age. However the name does make things a little easier. John Pascoe Symonds bp. 30th March 1800 at Budock son of Aaron and Mary. Aaron Symonds married Mary Pasco, widow, 6th October 1796 at Budock by Banns. (Witnesses were Mary Symons and Thomas Bolitho.) CT |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 30, 2011 5:24:19 GMT -5
I think Aaron Symons family will be traced back through Falmouth to St Hilary but there will be some work to be done before that can be ascertained for sure. Elizabeth Hodge is a little different. In 1841 it is recorded that she was born 'In County' but then in 1851 her birthplace is recorded as Brixham, Devon. In 1861 she again gives her birthplace as Brixham, Devon in which case we have a slight problem. The entry is not in FamilySearch but in IGI there is the following entry submitted by a Member of the LDS Church:- Betsey d/o John and Elizabeth Hodge bp. 7th September 1800 Brixham, Devon As it is a Member-submitted entry then it needs to be treated with extreme caution. There is also a baptism in 1798 at Brixham for an Elizabeth d/o Caleb and Christian Hodge but this one seems to be a legitimate entry with a Batch Number indicating it was extracted from the Parish Register. The one thing I noticed through the Census is that Elizabeth's age is consistent with 40 81841), 50 (1851) and 60 in 1861 indicating she was probably born in 1800. CT |
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The next child I find to John and Elizabeth SYMONDS is daughter Elizabeth Jane and this time the transcript shows that John was a 'Fellmonger'! 
