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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 13, 2023 4:30:44 GMT -5
This terrier needed a kick-start!!  Not sure exactly what it was, perhaps the mention of Missouri again  , but something in your post got the brain ticking over again. Whatever it was that provided the kick start triggered the idea of that potentially lengthy 1860 Census search. For some unknown reason I seem to have not considered that option when we last looked at this family. Just as a clarification - John (the elder) was the son of John Penhall Glasson and Honor Bishop? Obviously he was not the son of Richard Glasson and Mary Thomas as I surmised in my recent post but I did just notice something about that John. He was baptised in 1830 but born around 1826/7 yet when he died his age was recorded as 49 which would put his birth closer to 1835! Also, did you ever find a marriage for John son of Richard and Mary? Finally - do you have a copy of the marriage record for John Glasson and Mary Jane Medlen? I only have the FreeBMD information. CT |
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Post by Glazin2018 on Jul 13, 2023 4:44:39 GMT -5
CT
Yes he was.
No, sadly not
No, I have a date for 4th July 1853 at Redruth but I do not have my original source, I have been frantically looking for my source.
Lannanta
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 13, 2023 5:13:03 GMT -5
I cannot find a copy of the record anywhere but I can help a little. You may recall that several years back I made an attempt to create a record of marriages to help fill in the gaps in available records for Parishes such as Illogan, Redruth, Redruth Register Office and NC Chapels? I did gather a lot of information from copies of certificates, Newspaper records and various other sources and was able to at least compile a record of what registration numbers were used for each Qtr in each of the Redruth District Parishes. And for the greater percentage of those I was able to determine from FreeBMD which grooms matched with which brides. So, with the help of those spreadsheets I can at least tell you that the marriage of John Glasson and Mary Jane Medlen took place in the Redruth Parish Church. The marriage immediately preceding this one took place on September 2nd and the one immediately following took place on September 5th 1853. Based on that information I would suggest your date of 4th September is very likely correct. I will add that to my database and should then have this lot up to date with everything we have. I also had the Avoca marriage in my database so have now been able to link John back to his parents whose marriage I also already had. That has tidied up a few loose ends and enabled me to delete a number of duplicated entries in the database. Back to the Harvey families for a while now then back to work on some upgrades and a decent setup on my most recent guitar. CT |
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Post by zibetha on Jul 13, 2023 21:24:10 GMT -5
Re: a Missouri connection, there were Glassons in Cole, Missouri in 1850. Cole is the county just East of Moniteau County which Jane Glasson listed as her birthplace.
The 1850 Census lists a household consisting of Mary Glassin 1808 England, Richard Glassin (farmer) 1827 England, and Mary Ann Glassin 1848 Missouri. 1850 was one of the years when Mortality Schedules were done listing people who died in the preceding year. Films are held by the Missouri historical Society, so all I can view is the index. Three adult "Glassen" men are listed with deaths about/as of June 1850: Richard 1808, John 1833, Richard 1835, and Benjamin 1835. There was a cholera epidemic that flared up in Jefferson City (State Capitol and seat of Cole County) in 1849. The height of it was April to August, but that was not the end of the spread of the disease.
My thought was that Richard might have been Mary's husband and John and Benjamin possibly their sons.
Zib
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Post by Glazin2018 on Jul 14, 2023 2:39:21 GMT -5
Hi Zibetha
Yes you have definitely hit on a complete family there:
Richard Glasson married Margery Smith in 1826 in Camborne. They had four boys, the first Richard dying the same year he was born in 1827. So John and the second Richard born around 1832 and Benjamin 1833.
Can you please confirm whether there were three or four deaths of Glasson men in 1850 please?
Lannanta
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Post by zibetha on Jul 14, 2023 6:12:43 GMT -5
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Post by Glazin2018 on Jul 14, 2023 23:36:11 GMT -5
Hi Zib
Can I ask where you saw the reference -
Lannanta
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Post by zibetha on Jul 15, 2023 4:25:48 GMT -5
Lannanta, upon review, I seem to have put that in my notes re: the 1850 census and could have been mistaken as I review the image again. With brother Mark now in the family and better ages for the older sons via the actual mortality schedule information from the image, she could have been the youngest child in the family.
Between storms, ongoing 4th of July fireworks from my neighbors and more than usual street sweeping at night, I've been rather sleep derpived lately. Glad you questioned me.
Zib
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Post by zibetha on Jul 15, 2023 4:58:08 GMT -5
I am not a Glasson descendant, but our families do seem to overlap at Crowan. I think my 4x great grandmother Jennifer Taylor was related to the William Taylor whose daughter Jennifer married Robert Glasson.
Cheers
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 15, 2023 5:34:02 GMT -5
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Post by zibetha on Jul 15, 2023 5:47:04 GMT -5
I can't find this family in 1860. Wonder if young Mary Ann might be this one:https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7163/images/4273714_00009?pId=993643 It would be in the area. Hard times.
Zib
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 15, 2023 14:10:36 GMT -5
That could be her Zib but being recorded simply as 'Mary' and not 'Mary Ann' does make it alittle more difficult to know. And given by 1850 her only remaining immediate family consisted of mother Mary (Jane) and brother Richard the identification is no easier.
BTW - if you want to include links in a post (such as the Census one you just used) it can be set up to appear in the post as a live clickable link. All you need to do is:-
1. copy and paste the link to your post
2. highlight the link
3. click on the 'Link' button from the toolbar above. That button is the first of the last group of buttons - the one with the Globe and sheet of paper in the image just prior to the email button.
4. you will be presented with an acknowledgement box - just click on the 'Create Link' button and that's it.
CT
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, but something in your post got the brain ticking over again. Whatever it was that provided the kick start triggered the idea of that potentially lengthy 1860 Census search. For some unknown reason I seem to have not considered that option when we last looked at this family.
