Alice Quick died 1899

[Sarch]

Hi CT

Alice Quick died 1899 London aged 39
Residence 10 Brownhill Gardens, Brownhill Rd, London S.E

Buried 11 November 1899 St Ives

Would this Alice be the daughter of John Quick and Alice Nichols Smith?

Other than the 1861 Census (Alice aged 21m) I can't find Alice again

Sarch

[Cornish Terrier]

Hi Sarch - the answer is .......................................................... No!

So that you understand where she fits in I need to take you back to the family of James QUICK and Eleanor HODGE who married at St Ives 18th April 1802.

There are five known children for that family over a period of 22 years!

The three daughters:-

Ann bp. 15th September 1802 St Ives married Richard Penrose at St Ives in 1825
Eleanor bp. 27th November 1808 St Ives married John Lander at St Ives in 1836
Elizabeth bp. 11th May 1824 St Ives married Robert Richards Craze at St Ives in 1845

Eleanor Quick was buried three days after her daughter Elizabeth was baptised and James later married Hannah Worth.

The two sons were Richard and James.

Richard bp. 11th May 1806 St Ives was first married to Hannah Shugg at St Ives in 1834.
There are no known children from this marriage and Hannah died in 1858 at St George In The East, Middlesex.
Richard then married Ruth DODDS at St George In The East in 1859.
He died at Poplar in 1882 age 76.

Richard and his brother James were both Officers of HM Customs.

James was baptised at St Ives 15th January 1819 and in 1848 at Hastings, Sussex, he married Mary RICHARDS who was baptised at St Ives in 1821.

James and Mary are both buried at Barnoon in 1887 and 1884 respectively.

The only child was James who was born at Ratcliffe, Middlesex about 1854.
James was a Government Clerk with the Board of Trade and in 1881 at Mile End Old Town he married Alice SYMONS.

They had three daughters all born at Limehouse in London.
Alice Maud Mary born 3rd February 1883 (baptised 6th June 1883 at St Ives)
Lillian Symons born 21st December 1883
Eleanor Eliza born 4th December 1886

Lillian and Eleanor were both baptised at St Ives 24th August 1887.

Alice SYMONS was born at St Ives about 1859 or 1860 if you work from the Census records.
She was a daughter of John Hodge Symons and Alice Richards who married at Budock 11th June 1848.

It was Alice (Symons) Quick of 10 Brownhill Gardens, Brownhill Rd, London S.E. who was buried at Barnoon Cemetery 11th November 1899.

James Quick and his three daughters were still living at 10 Brownhill Gardens in 1901.

CT

[Sarch]

Hi CT

Thanks I did not have marriages for James and Richard


Do you know anything about the other Alice born 1859 dauther of John Quick and Alice N Smith?
I can't find a death except maybe Alice Quick June Quarter 1864 Penzance (no age given) on Free BMD


Sarch

[Cornish Terrier]

Sarch - I have been looking around trying to find information about Alice with no luck.

It is 'possible' that the 1864 Death is her but ........

For the Penzance R.D. there are only two Parishes for which I do not have burials for 1864 and they are Penzance and Towednack.
There appear to be no Quick families in either Parish in 1861 where an Alice was involved and I see no reason for this particular family to have been in either Parish anyway.

So the big question is - IF this is the daughter of John and Alice then WHERE IS SHE BURIED!

And I will throw something else into the mix for you to think about.

John and Alice also had a son named John who was baptised at St Ives 1st July 1863 (born 16th June).

It is interesting to note that he is also missing from the 1871 Census and I can find no further trace of him.

I currently show that he is probably the John Quick who died in the Penzance R.D. in the March Qtr of 1868 age 4.

Again - WHERE IS HE BURIED?

I can see nothing to suggest the family spent any time out of St Ives so even if the children died elsewhere I might expect them to be buried at St Ives.

John drowned in Bassett Bay in 1872 and is buried at Barnoon and the death of Alice is recorded on that same gravestone in 1914.
Also recorded on that gravestone are son Peter Bryant Quick and daughter Mary with her husband Matthew Stevens.

Most odd.

CT

[Sarch]

Hi CT

I am wondering if they didn't put headstones up for the children John & Alice?

BUT there should be church records and possibly newspaper article/mention?

Are there any West Briton Newspapers on film at LDS?

Sarch

P.S. Although I think Bassett Bay might not be too far from St Ives I have not been able to find it?

[Cornish Terrier]

Sarch - I don't think I can help any more on this one.

If there were headstones for the children they are probably long gone but then we don't know for certain that the two we have been discussing are actually children of John and Alice.

Yes, there should be some record of the burials of these children whoever they are but I have been unable to find them.

It may be a case of the death certificates being the only surviving answer.

And I have no idea of the location of Bassett Bay and it does not score any hits with a Google search.
If the name is anything to do with the Bassett family then it may be nowhere near St Ives.

CT

[Tonkin]

Just wondering ...... Could your Bassett's Bay now be called Basset's Cove.

Just trying to help.

[Cornish Terrier]

It might well be!

I only know it as Bassett's Bay from the Barnoon Cemetery MIs.

[Sarch]

Hi CT, Tonkin

This is why I wondered if Bassett Bay was near St Ives

John Tregerthen Short & Thomas Williams, mention both Bassett Cove and Bassett Bay -
I imagine Bassett Cove and Bassett Bay would be near one another or perhaps the same thing?

"
a lane of fish was reported by the divers on December 1, as extending from Bassett's Bay to St Ives' Bay
"

Sarch

[Tonkin]

Some say Bay and some say Cove.

Google basset's cove cemetery you may be surprised at what you find.

Roy ... from down under.