Parish Registers On-Line for Lelant

[chrisu]

Greetings all

The Pilot program on Family search which includes (thus far) images of original parish registers for Cornwall has, as far as I can tell, all available registers for Lelant Parish. Happy hunting!

See:
pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=allCollections&r=1
Scroll down to England, click on Cornwall and select your Parish of interest.
Cheers
Chris

[chrisu]

Is anyone interested in helping me index the online registers?
Chris

[Isambard]

Aug 5, 2010 4:51:37 GMT -5 chrisu said:

Greetings all

The Pilot program on Family search which includes (thus far) images of original parish registers for Cornwall has, as far as I can tell, all available registers for Lelant Parish. Happy hunting!

See:
pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=allCollections&r=1
Scroll down to England, click on Cornwall and select your Parish of interest.
Cheers
Chris

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Do the Lelant Parish registers cover Cof E only or also other denominations, e.g Wesleyan Methodists etc?

[chrisu]

It's a bit difficult to say at this stage - but if you go to the browse section of the site and select the parish in which you have an interest it should tell you what is available.

Chris

[chrisu]

But Maxwell Adams has transcribed Baptisms at Lelant Primitive Methodist Chapel Lelant, see:

lelant.info/primitivebaptisms.htm

Chris

[Isambard]

For some years I've been trying, without success, to find specifics of where James Dunstan of Canon's Town is buried, including walking about St. Uny Lelant church yard and cemetery in 2005.

James Dunstan was born 10 March 1821 in Truro and died 22 November 1906 in Canon's Town. He was a road surveyor, then cow keeper, and an Elder of the Wesleyan Methodist Church in Canon's Town and Superintendent of the Sunday School.

A church 100th anniversary publication 1878-1978 notes that "--when he died scholars walked to Lelant cemetery in procession for the burial service.".

So far I've not found James, (or his son William T. Dunstan d. abt 1889) in the Lelant parish registers.

[sue]

As a Wesleyan, I doubt he/they would be buried in St Uny's churchyard, but rather in Lelant cemetery.

I must admit to looking at a lot of the Lelant 19th PR images myself in the last couple of days - blowing a Large Hole in the monthly downlaod allowance! - , not entirely successfully. I may be mistaken, but they look rather like parish church records to me; and none of the volumes listed at present for Uny Lelant are labelled Wesleyan. Although methodist circuits covered just that, a circuit of several chapels in different nearby places.

Chrisu & Maxwell Adams have sizeable indices on their websites to extant gravestones in the local cemeteries etc., and I expect you have looked there; they aren't there that I can see.

With most of my ancestors from Lelant such as my particular Glassons, sadly there is no gravestone (there may have perhaps been a wooden memorial, once?) to be found, even though the records show that they are buried there.

Chrisu may have a more helpful reply?

Sue

[donne]

Aug 6, 2010 2:43:27 GMT -5 chrisu said:

It's a bit difficult to say at this stage - but if you go to the browse section of the site and select the parish in which you have an interest it should tell you what is available.

Chris

Parish records are generally what they say they are - records compiled by the C of E appropriate to a particular C of E parish. Some non-conformist records appear on the Pilot Family Search website, but they appear to be separately listed e.g. St Columb Wesleyan Methodist Circuit. That said, I couldn't spot any non-nonconformist records for Lelant. I have used the website BMD Registers www.bmdregisters.co.uk to get images of non-conformist records - search is free, pay to download.

[Isambard]

Are the Eastern, Western and Southern cemeteries in Maxwell Adams' monument listings C of E?

[sue]

I think you will find your answer in Maxwell's own description of the 4 burial areas around St Uny's church
lelant.info/burialgrounds.htm
Myself I particularly like the newspaper quotes.

I would expect your Mr Dunstans are in the Western Cemetery.

Maxwell also helpfully explains how there are only extant memorial stones to a few.

I had quite forgotten, oops, about the change in the burial laws towards the end of the 19th century; although my understanding is that in Lelant, as in many other places in England, Anglicans and those of other denominations mostly continued in separation.

Hope that helps.

Sue

[sue]

This query of yours Isambard has just reminded me of the note in the transcription of the Lelant burial register for my GGGfather John Curnow, buried 7 July 1877:
"first in the new yard".

Another one for whom there is no extant memorial/marker.

(And just out of interest, he seems to have oscillated a bit between denominations: married in an Anglican parish church; 1st 2 children baptized Methodist, another 5 for whom no trace yet of a baptism, and the youngest 3 boys baptized Anglican – and the 1877 burial I understand to be Anglican as it is in the Lelant parish register.)

However! There was a 2nd note made by the transcriber for the OPC database: “A18?”

Looking now at the freshly online PR image, there is a general note at the bottom of this image, (no. 48: page 91 of the Lelant Burials register 1861 -1891) which states:
“The letters A.B.C refer to the place on the plan. The numbers to the grave spaces.”

Scanning through a few of the later images, right up until June 1899 when the batch of images ends, as far as I can see (although the film is called 1861 -1901, and I haven't looked at every image to see if there are any pages out of chronological order) each entry has continued to be carefully labelled with the burial plot number.

So: it may be that as and when you are able to access a register for your Dunstans buried in Lelant Isambard, it will contain similar specific plot number references.

And the Big Question is, Lelanters: does anyone know the whereabouts of the plan of the cemeteries next to St Uny's church, showing A.B.C..... and 1,2,3,4 etc locations??

Sue

[Isambard]

Aug 10, 2010 3:58:38 GMT -5 sue said:

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I had quite forgotten, oops, about the change in the burial laws towards the end of the 19th century; although my understanding is that in Lelant, as in many other places in England, Anglicans and those of other denominations mostly continued in separation.

Hope that helps.

Sue

Thanks Sue.

Apropos the burial laws, this little story from the Canon’s Town Methodist Church 1878 -1978 history:

From the Canon’s Town Methodist Church 1878 -1978 history:

“In the same year ((1894)) a less happy event took place. This was the first burial to take place in Ludgvan parish under the recent Burials’ Act, where Anglican clergy were obliged to attend burials of nonconformists in the churchyard. Nonconformist burials were often the cause of much bitterness even after the Act, and crowds arrived to see a very reluctant churchman performing his statutory duty. Recriminations often followed in the press and elsewhere, and the funeral ceremony, in itself painful enough, was often turned into some sort of bitter demonstration.

A very tragic death lay at the centre of this particular event, for it was the funeral of Esther Rosewarne of Canon’s Town, and she was aged thirteen. Her father was a market gardener, and also belonged to the Sunday School.. Before the procession set out on its long journey to the parish church, a service took place in the chapel, attended by teachers, scholars and friends. The minister preached on the raising of Jairus’ daughter, and made some suitable observations. These observations are not recorded but the New Testament event also had its sensation seekers and large crowds.

In bright sunshine many turned out to see this “novel event” and the procession which accompanied poor Esther on her last journey was estimated to be a quarter of a mile in length! Those who expected a scene were rewarded, for the cortege was humiliated by being turned back at the main entrance and had to take the back gate, struggling through crowds of people already arrived. After the usual service “Around the throne of God in Heaven” was feelingly sung an an extemporare prayer offered. One is very is very thankful that in this respect our attitudes are much enlightened today! “((1978))

Isambard