Jane Quick (x2) Identified

[Cornish Terrier]

I have now identified and found families for two more Jane Quicks!

Two marriages at St Ives were confusing matters:-

Sidney RICHARDS, widower, married Jane QUICK 3rd June 1816 St Ives

Thomas BARBER married Jane QUICK 8th December 1816 St Ives

I originally had the former as being baptised 13th January 1790 at St Ives d/o James Quick and Jane Michell.

The Barber/Quick marriage was a problem as I could not find any children.

BUT! - that has now all changed!

Thomas BARBER was in the Coast Guard service and spent some time as a Preventive Officer.

Prior to knowing this was the Thomas who married Jane Quick I did know that he had a son named John who married Jane MICHELL at Towednack in 1849.

Jane Michell was the daughter of Samuel Michell and Mary Trewhella.

Searching the Census and I found what had to be Thomas and Jane Barber in 1851 with both stating the were age 61 and both born St Ives.

In the 1841 Census the family was at Gorran and with them was a son named William who was baptised at Tywardreath in 1830.

In the 1861 Census Jane is back at Zennor with daughter-in-law Mary Ann Barber age 24.

William Barber son of Thomas Barber, Coast Guard, married Mary Ann Berryman at Zennor in 1856.

In 1841 there was also daughter Jane, now married to someone named CLARK.

I have since found Jane's baptism in the St Ives Independent PRs and her marriage appears in FreeBMD to Thomas Clark in the St Austell R.D. in 1840.

But I also found another son while searching the OPC site.

James Quick BARBER son of Thomas and Jane bp. 22nd January 1826 at Ruan Minor

So a look at the available Jane Quicks born around 1789/90 was in order.

Jane bp. 1788 d/o Israel and Mary (she married Robert Bennatts0
Jane bp. 1789 d/o Gabriel and Mary (she married Oliver Oliver with her father as witness)
Jane bp. 1790 d/o Samuel and Eleanor (she was born at Feock!)

The only possible Jane seemed to be:-

bp. 13th January 1790 St Ives d/o James and Jane

But I already had her married to Sidney Richards!

At this point I decided to have another look at the family of Sidney Richards.

And also at this point I found out just how STUPID I had been!

From what I have been able to find I already knew that Jane QUICK had one child from her marriage to Sidney RICHARDS:-

Phillipa REED Richards bp. 28th March 1817 at St Ives

THAT should really have told me something!!!

The Jane Quick who married Sidney Richards MUST have been the following:-

Jane d/o John and Phyllis Quick bp. 5th August 1792 Penzance

John Quick married Phyllis READ 8th August 1783 at Madron

And that now means that the wife of Thomas BARBER was the daughter of James QUICK and Jane MICHELL.

CT

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CT

The Jane Quick who married Sidney Richards MUST have been the following:-

Jane d/o John and Phyllis Quick bp. 5th August 1792 Penzance

John Quick married Phyllis READ 8th August 1783 at Madron

Can you tell me who John Quick, the husband of Phyllis Read, is and how he fits into the scheme of things?

Lannanta

[Cornish Terrier]

Maybe another one lost in your files?

Some time back the answer to that question was found during discussions on one of the Thomas Quicks.

In his Will of 1808 Thomas Quick mentioned his niece Jane Quick.

Thomas was first married to Elizabeth Major and secondly to Joan Williams and he was the son of Thomas Quick and Jane Canarthen.

A search of all possible Jane Quicks who could have been a niece produced only one logical candidate - the daughter of John Quick and Phyllis Read.

Therefore John Quick was the youngest son of Thomas Quick and Jane Canarthen and baptised at St Ives 29th April 1744.

The main query remaining with John and Phyllis is whether or not there were any other children.

They married in 1783 and we only have Jane baptised in 1792.

CT

[Cornish Terrier]

I believe I can now also identify the Ann Quick who married Andrew Thomas at St Ives in 1782.

Now that I have seen the actual Register entry there is a little more to go on.

One of the witnesses was Thomas QUICK whom I believe to be Ann's brother.

It is all but certain that Ann is the following:-

Ann d/o Thomas and Jane Quick bp. 12th April 1747 St Ives

Thomas Quick married Jane Canarthen 10th June 1732 St Ives

Thomas Quick son of Thomas and Jane (above) married 1. Elizabeth MAJOR and 2. Joan WILLIAMS.

I have compared the signiatures of Thomas Quick on the three relevant documents and they all appear to be identical.

I should point out that there are large gaps involved here!

Thomas was first married in 1769.
Ann was married in 1782.
Thomas was married a second time in 1798.

But the signiatures do look identical.

And Ann would have been about 35 when she married which helps explain only one child.

CT

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CT

Maybe another one lost in your files?

One of the problems with transferring data from work to home and back again on a daily basis - sometimes I forgot and backed up my data with an old file - old age mate

Lannanta

[sue]

Hopefully that Thomas Quick signature matches that I am emailing you CT....

Sue

[Cornish Terrier]

Hi Sue - yes that signiature looks very similar indeed.

I found with the other records that Thomas had a peculiar little finish when writing his surname and that is reflected in the document I just received.

Thankyou.

CT

Lannanta - don't worry ol' mate it happens to us all.

I had a search but cannot find the thread where the discussion took place but I have an idea that Sue just might have been involved.

And I think it began with a query about Thomas Quick born 1808.

CT

[sue]

The thread was "Philippa Quick of St Ives" started by me Oct 3, 2009 - the Phillipa Quick b 1803 daughter of Thomas Quick's late 2nd marriage, who went on to marry Jakeh Glasson and later run The Cornish Arms @ Trelyon, my GGGGparents.

Said Phillipa being 1st cousin to the Jane Quick daughter of Thomas Quick's brother John Quick (& Phillis Read....)

The only son of Thomas Quick 's marriage to Joan Williams, Thomas bptzd 25/1/1808 St Ives - probably the final straw in exhaustion for a 69 yearold father , who died a year later..... - went on to be a mariner/fisherman; apparently never married so that was the end of that Quick line.

Said Thomas the younger to be found in 1861/71 censuses living with his niece Phillipa (Glasson) Chard's family, then 1881 just the great-nephew Joseph Chard.
Joseph's sister Phillipa Glasson Chard decided to continue the Quicks theme by 1887 marrying Benedict Quick son of cordwainer James, which marriage only lasted long enough to produce a Wilmot 1888 before Phillipa Glasson Chard Quick widow stops being a Quick & remarries to Henry Farrell 1893.

Sue

[Cornish Terrier]

Thanks Sue - I didn't look at that one!