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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2010 2:58:57 GMT -5
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I am way off where my own Glasson family is but I am having a number of successes in properly recording the general Glasson surname so while the going is good...
But I cannot find a marriage for a Robert Glasson and Jane who started to have children baptised in Newlyn East around 1798 and then every few year after that until 1813.
I have reason to believe from some searching on the internet that she is possibly Jane Clemo, daughter of Richard but if that information is correct I cannot see where it came from and at this stage I do not want to take some great leaps in faith and accept things that cannot be proven.
You may be interested to know that I believe this Robert to be the son of Robert Glasson and Eleanor Thomas and I think that we have discussed them before with Richard and Phillipa. The children are:
Elizabeth
Susanna
Robert
Martha
Mary
John
Joseph
Richard
Christian.
I would appreciate any assistance in finding a source for the marriage of Robert and Jane prior to 1798.
Lannanta
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 19, 2010 9:40:48 GMT -5
 How about this?  Jane CLEMOW or CLYOMOW married Robert or Robart GLASSOM or GLASSON 6th August 1796 Truro, Cornwall, England Source - IGI ;D I found it by working backwards from your information. Started off by the standard search for a marriage in IGI for Robert Glasson which, of course, gave me nothing. Then I tracked down all the baptisms for the children of Robert and Jane to get an idea what and where I was dealing with. Found a burial for Jane Glasson age 46 at East Newlyn in 1818 which then matched the baptism of Jane d/o Richard and Elizabeth Clemow at East Newlyn in 1772. I then checked Phillimore for East Newlyn and could not find the marriage. In desperation I tried IGI again but this time searched for marriages for Jane CLEMOW. BINGO!!!  CT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2010 17:09:03 GMT -5
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Magic. I looked at IGI as you did for Robert and I came up with nothing so I gave up with IGI very quickly. Never thought about looking for Jane - I must think more laterally!! ;D
Appreciate that and I will record it.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 20, 2010 1:36:01 GMT -5
Lannanta - that was really just an 'off chance' thing and it just came to me to try it as a normal part of the progression when I was checking for Jane Clemo. I found the above unusual because it almost invariably means there is 'something' in IGI so maybe that also triggered something in my brain.  However, I do recall at least one occasion a few years ago where I had a similar experience with the information I wanted being found under one name but not the other. At least you have something to work from now and perhaps an email to the OPC for Truro would be a good idea.  CT |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2010 5:06:44 GMT -5
CT Still good work because I was actually referring to a CLEMO family tree that came up on a google search - desperate times... Anyway I am happy with that as it all fits and I have added that family and am nor firmly embedded in Sithney at the moment. Looks like I will be lucky enough to get to Cornwall again this year so I am already looking forward to a pint of mermaid at Zennor. Lannanta |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 20, 2010 7:19:40 GMT -5
So long as we have the answer is the main thing! I have just been working a little on the family of James Glasson and Ann Bottrell. This was purely by accident and was the result of a Quick marriage in the St Ives PRs. More of that in the Quick section. But I was trying to find out how Jane BARBER nee MICHELL (presumed daughter of Samuel Michell and Mary Trewhella) could be a 'cousin' to 'Mrs Saml Phillips' whose brother was Thomas H Glasson.  Refer 1871 Census Penzance Mrs Saml PHILLIPS, head ( died April 2) Thomas H GLASSON, brother, widr., 53, farmer, Madron Elizabeth do., sister-in-law, W, 52, Germoe Jame BARBER, cousin, mar., 56, mariner's wife, Towednack Mary A. QUICK, servant, unm., 52?, general servant, Madron Mrs Saml Phillips was Ann Glasson who married Samuel Phillips of Zennor at Madron in 1819. Thomas H Glasson was her brother Thomas Hosking Glasson. Jane Michell (d/o Samuel) married John Barber at Towednack 30th August 1849. John Barber now turns out to have been the son of Thomas BARBER who married Jane QUICK at St Ives in 1816!  Jane BARBER said in the Census that she was a 'cousin' to the now-deceased Mrs Samuel PHILLIPS. But was she actually a cousin to Ann nee GLASSON or to her husband Samuel PHILLIPS? CT |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2012 4:58:06 GMT -5
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Just heading back to some Robert Glassons for a moment.
The Jane Clemo mentioned here died in 1818 at Rejerrow.
And then I believe that Robert married Mary Roberts in 1827 at St Mewan and you find Mary, a widow in the 1841 and 1851 census - and Robert died in 1834 and was buried in Crowan. The informant at Mary's death happened (by chance?) to be a John Clemo.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 30, 2012 21:32:03 GMT -5
Sorry mate - I missed this one!  Correction! Robert Glasson of Trewoon Batts age 62 was buried at St Mewan 7th February 1834 Can you give me the details for Mary's death/burial please. CT |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2012 20:32:25 GMT -5
Comes from having your scorched hand in the freezer??
Death at Tregonhenny at St Mewan on the 26th April 1851.
Mary Glasson, female, aged 67 years, widow of Robert Glasson, a farmer. Died of decline; not certified. Informant was John Clemo of Tregonhenny, St Mewan, present at the death. Registered on the 28th April 1851.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Dec 1, 2012 20:52:33 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2012 21:19:01 GMT -5
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Just as a matter of interest, we know that the Robert who died at St Mewan in 1834 was the husband of Jane Clemoe and subsequently Mary Roberts.
He married Jane Clemoe in August 1796 at Truro. Could he have also been the husband of Elizabeth Kendall, the marriage occuring at St Agnes / Truro in September 1794? There is a burial at Cubert in January 1796 to support that theory - that Elizabeth being the wife of Robert of Newlyn - although the surname was spelt GLAKEN I do believe.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Dec 1, 2012 22:37:13 GMT -5
Yep - that is how I have it. Robert is not recorded as a widower when he married Jane (as I recall) but I looked at the signiatures for all three marriages a couple of days ago and found that the surname is written similarly in each case but on one occasion thr 'R' in Robert is quite different. I am quite confident however that all three marriages are for the same man.  According to the 1851 Census John Clemo was a nephew although it would appear the word 'nephew' is used rather loosely! Once upon a time .................... Mary Roberts was baptised at St Mewan 4th May 1783 to Joseph and Mary Roberts for whom I am having some trouble finding a marriage. In 1851 Mary was with her unmarried sister Susan who had been baptised 16th December 1781 also at St Mewan. John Clemo, nephew age 18, was also in the household. In the next household was the family of another John Clemo age 57 who is currently unidentified. The following household is that of James Coad age 30 and with him is his grandmother Rosamund Coad age 70. Rosamund was baptised Roseman Roberts 6th August 1780 at St Mewan and she was another sister to Mary. Rosamund married Edward Coad of St Stephen in Brannel 18th October 1806 at St Mewan. I suspect it is via this marriage that we get 'John Clemo, nephew'. David Cock married Mary Coad at St Stephen in Brannel 26th November 1797 and I suspect Mary was a sister to Rosamund Roberts' husband Edward Coad. (Hence the link) They had a daughter Mary who married Edward/Edmund Clemo at St Mewan 24th December 1828. Although recorded (and signing) as Edmund it seems he was recorded as Edward for some Children and Edmund for others. Amongst those children was John Clemo baptised 9th January 1831 at St Mewan. In the 1851 Census John Clemo's age was initially recorded as 'NK' but this was crossed out and replaced with '18'. CT |
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