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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2010 15:27:29 GMT -5
I was wondering if anybody had the marriage of Thomas Glasson to Jane Goldsworthy on 7/5/1814 at Crowan in their database.
I think that these are the parents of Abel Glasson and I think that Jane will have an Abel in her Goldsworthy family somewhere. I am particularly interested in who the parents of Jane were?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2010 17:06:35 GMT -5
It is possible that the answer to my question lies in the parishes of Gwennap and Kenwyn.
In 1760 Abel Goldsworthy was baptised at Gwennap to Thomas and Mary.
Then in 1784 Abel Goldsworthy married Jane Vincent at Kenwyn.
Then back at Gwennap Thomas (1786), James (1789) and Jenefer (1792) were baptised to Abel and Jane. Then at Crowan we have entries for Eliza (1794) and Abel (1797).
I think Jenefer is the Jane that I am looking for?
There is a burial for Jane Glasson at Crowan in 1833, aged 41, making her birth around 1792 and I think that this was Jane nee Goldsworthy.
So the question now, is that given that the family of Thomas and Jane comprised the following: John, Thomas, Abel, William, Elizabeth, Ann and Mary - is it fair to suggest that the naming of these children provides weight to the argument that Thomas was the son of John Glasson and Margaret Richards and therefore the grandson of John Glasson and Ann Hampton? For me the mssing child's name is Margaret and that is about the only doubt I have at the moment.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jun 9, 2010 4:50:04 GMT -5
I never had them in my database but working through the family now and I tend to agree with your findings on the Goldsworthy side. The question of the identity of Thomas Glasson is still not yet quite clear and it would certainly help if he had named a daughter Margaret. I expect you have the details but Abel Glasson married Sophia James at Breage 26th December 1838 when both were 'under age'. Thomas Glasson, miner, is named as the father of Abel. For the children of Thomas and Jane I have found all except for Thomas.  I am presuming that John is the one baptised at St Erth just two months after the marriage?  But no sign of Thomas anywhere so details would be appreciated. Do you have a burial (or possible burial) for Thomas senior? If I come up with anything of help I will let you know. CT |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2010 14:22:50 GMT -5
Morning CT
I have Thomas junior baptised at Crowan on the 26th November 1815.
I have no idea when Thomas senior died and I am even still guessing at this stage that I have the correct Jane although it does seem very likely.
I would very much like to see the entry in the registers for the marriage between Thomas Glasson and Elizabeth Webb in the 1st February 1835 to see if that Thomas was a widower or not. Other than that I have no idea what happened to him at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2010 19:27:22 GMT -5
CT
I understand that their first son William emigrated to Oz. Do you have any idea where he went to and if there are any records of him?
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jun 9, 2010 20:46:58 GMT -5
Young Thomas appears in IGI as GLESSON which appears to be why I did not find him.  I will take a look at your other dilemmas and see what I can find. As a start I have sent an email to the OPC for Crowan to see if we can get details of the two marriages. CT |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jun 9, 2010 21:14:55 GMT -5
Lannanta - not having any luck so far in finding any records of William in Australia.
I have found his marriage (you may already have it) which might give some further clues.
William s/o Abel Glasson married Eliz. d/o John Mitchell (decd.) 19th April 1860 at Camborne
One daughter, Elizabeth Mary age 10 months, appeared in the 1861 Census at Camborne.
Will see if that leads anywhere.
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Post by cornishglassons on Jul 21, 2010 5:04:20 GMT -5
CT [I understand that their first son William emigrated to Oz. Do you have any idea where he went to and if there are any records of him? Lannanta Hi Lannanta and CT, I found a tree online that stated William's mother Sophia and her second son Abel also emigrated to Australia. I tried to confirm this but wasn't able (on a brief search) to find any independent evidence of this. The last census I could find Sophia living in Cornwall was in 1871 when she was aged 52. It has interested me somewhat as to whether she did move to Oz in her 50s or possibly 60s. Do you know if it's true and if so whether any other family went with them? Best wishes, Carole |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 21, 2010 8:17:42 GMT -5
   ;D  Sophia GLASSON of Wallaroo Mines, widow, age 92 died 26th January 1912 at Wallaroo Mines, South Australia Abel GLASSON of Wallaroo Mines, single, age 70 died 18th July 1911 at Wallaroo Mines, South Australia That would tend to indicate that there was some basis to that online tree Carole! William GLASSON, widower age 28, (son of Abel Glasson) and Elizabeth Grace CURNOW age 19, daughter of (Richard Curnow) were married at the residence of John Waters Duryea 17th May 1868 (same district as Wallaroo Mines, South Australia) There are eight children to this marriage all born at Kadina and Wallaroo Mines. That now adds to the detail I gave Lannanta a couple of weeks ago. There does not seem to be a death record for William's first wife in South Australia so he may have left for Australia after she died. Let me know when you want the details of the children and I will get them together for you. CT
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 21, 2010 8:48:03 GMT -5
A small addition to my last. I have so far been unable to find information on the arrival of the Glassons in South Australia. And a check of FreeBMD shows a number of possibles for the first wife of William. There seems to be no record of a death for his daughter Elizabeth Mary so I would suggest this might be her even though the age is slightly out:- George HOLMAN age 25 (son of Thomas Holman) and Elizabeth Mary GLASSON age 19 (daughter of William Glasson) were married 13th October 1881 at PM Manse, Kadina, South Australia. CT |
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Post by cornishglassons on Jul 21, 2010 10:10:33 GMT -5
A small addition to my last. I have so far been unable to find information on the arrival of the Glassons in South Australia. And a check of FreeBMD shows a number of possibles for the first wife of William. There seems to be no record of a death for his daughter Elizabeth Mary so I would suggest this might be her even though the age is slightly out:- George HOLMAN age 25 (son of Thomas Holman) and Elizabeth Mary GLASSON age 19 (daughter of William Glasson) were married 13th October 1881 at PM Manse, Kadina, South Australia. CT Hi again! I'm confused again!!! ;D ;D Are there two William Glassons born in Breage in 1838/9 who worked as miners and married an Elizabeth who was three years younger? I think there must be. In the 1861 Census I found miner William aged 23 married to Elizabeth aged 20 with a ten month old daughter Elizabeth and living in Camborne. So that is our one! Then in 1871 I also found miner William aged 33 married to Elizabeth aged 30 but with children William aged three, John aged two and Elizabeth aged one. At first I thought the first Elizabeth had died and a younger sibling was named after her. But as we know Elizabeth Mary aged 19 (or thereabouts) married in Australia then I guess this must be the wrong family. There was a William Glasson of the same age who was the son of Robert and Jane Glasson, so I think this must be him. I can't find the first William/Elizabeth/Elizabeth family in 1871 so is it possible they had emigrated by then even although William's mother Sophia was still in England? I can't find William's brother Abel either, so again jumping to HUGE conclusions, is it likely he too was in Oz by then too? In which case they emigrated between 1861 and 1871. If this is the case I wonder when Sophia came out? I think I will check any 'missing' daughters to see if one of them travelled with her. I don't know why but it seems unlikely to me that Sophia in her 60s travelled alone - look at me, talking as if I know them all personally. Sometimes I get so into this I forget I haven't met them!!! ;D Best wishes, Carole |
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Post by cornishglassons on Jul 21, 2010 10:14:14 GMT -5
;D Sophia GLASSON of Wallaroo Mines, widow, age 92 died 26th January 1912 at Wallaroo Mines, South Australia Abel GLASSON of Wallaroo Mines, single, age 70 died 18th July 1911 at Wallaroo Mines, South Australia That would tend to indicate that there was some basis to that online tree Carole! Let me know when you want the details of the children and I will get them together for you. CT LOL - yes, it does seem a little more likely now! Yes, I would like details of the children when you can, CT. This is a rather interesting family. Many thanks! Carole |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2010 15:44:59 GMT -5
CT
Interesting that on the IGI, the submitter has referred to William as William Henry, however I can not see where they would get the Henry from. Is that the case with the information you have on the children CT?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2010 15:54:13 GMT -5
Carole
Yes, the 1871 Elizabeth is Elizabeth Andrewartha and William is the son of Robert Glasson and Jennifer Taylor, married in 1866.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 21, 2010 16:03:02 GMT -5
Hi Carole - herewith the list of children born to William Glasson in South Australia. William John born 27th Secember 1868 Kadina Richard Henry born 12th July 1871 Wallaroo Mines Albert born 15th January 1875 Kadina Albert Thomas born 18th June 1876 Wallaroo Mines Frederick born 17th August 1878 Wallaroo Mines Flossy May born 29th December 1880 Wallaroo Mines Margaretta Myrtle born 17th May 1884 Kadina Arthur James born 16th April 1887 Kadina Deaths Albert died 6th February 1875 Wallaroo Mines age 3 weeks (son of William) Frederick died 1st July 1880 Wallaroo Mines age 2 (son of William) I have just done a search for alternate spellings of the name but the above appears to be all there are. As per my earlier note William marred Elizabeth Grace Curnow in South Australia in 1868. Your William was actually baptised at Germoe 7th April 1839 although the family was then 'of Breage'. But there was another william baptised at Breage. William son of William and Susan Glasson of Trevena (farmer) bp. 17th November 1839 at Breage And I have just checked something that I had neglected before!! In the 1871 Census Elizabeth Mary (daughter of William) is with her grandmother at Camborne. And now armed with more detail from the 1871 and 1861 Census I can add some more to the family from Australia! John GLASSON age 21 (son of Abel Glasson) and Marrion FULCHER age 22 (daughter of Robert W Fulcher) were married at the PM Manse, Kadina, South Australia 20th December 1884 I cannot find a marriage for any of the girls in South Australia but at least you have a little more of the family. CT |
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