Newlyn Coopers or Lighthousemen? John---?

[Mal]

Hello,

For once a query that's on this side of the Civil War! ;D

I have a John Davis born/bapt 1797 Paul to John Davies (presumed) & Mary Bowling.

Now the puzzle,

I have a John Davis who was a cooper at Newlyn.
1841 census aged 40 married to Elizabeth (25) with children Owen and Elizabeth- living at Fore Street Newlyn.
Elizabeth (wife) Elizabeth James.

I have a John Davis who was a Lighthouse keeper.
1851 census
John Davis (Mariner) aged 53 born Paul (would be spot on) married to Mary with daughter Catherine (15) at Under Chapel Yards. This John went on to be a lighthouse keeper and is on the 1861 census at Coinage Hall Street with Mary and Catherine. I haven't been able to find a marriage for this couple yet.

Now people seem to be appearing and disappearing from the census so what happened to John the cooper? On the 1881 census a John Davies aged 34 married to Margaret J appears as a master cooper, living at Prospect Place and born in Newlyn. Margaret is Margaret J. Harvey and John Davies jnr is the son of (presumably) John the cooper senior and Elizabeth James.

If anyone has more information on this family/these families I would be very grateful as I am getting in a mix up with these. My own gut feeling is that John Davies the mariner/lighthouse keeper was the son of John Davies and Mary Bowling.

However there is an added twist.... on the 1891 census John Davies the cooper (junior) is living at Belle Vue, where my Grandfather was born 30 years later. I do think that they are all related some how but I'll need a wig soon from all the head-scratching I'm doing!

[jmg]

Hello Malcolm,

I always thought that this family was related in someway so I followed John Daves, cooper and family through the census and this is what I came up with :-

1841 Fore Street
John Davis 40 cooper
Elizabeth 25
Owen 5
Elizabeth 1

1851 North Fore St.
John Daves 54 cooper Paul
Elizabeth 39
Owen 14
Elizabeth 12
Grace 9
John 5
James H 5

1861 North Fore St
John Daves 64 cooper Paul
Elizabeth 49
Elizabeth 20
Grace 19
John 14
James H 12
Henry 8

1871 4 Antoine Terrace
John Daves 74 cooper Paul
Elizabeth 59
Elizabeth 31

1881 2 Antoine Terrace
Elizabeth Davies coopers widow 69
Lizzie Davies 40

Death of John Daves 1875 aged 78
Death of Elizabeth Davies 1881 aged 69

I have not been able to find what happen to Owen, Grace, James H or Henry or what happened to Lizzie after her mother died.

jmg

[Mal]

Thanks J!

Trouble is that we are also faced with John the Mariner and Lighthouse keeper married to Mary, they also have a daughter Catherine and this name seems to "come down" from the Mary Bowling line- if it's not coincidence that is. Can't make my mind up about these....!