Catherine Nicholas of St Buryan

[tonymitch]

Hi there,

Has anyone any information on Catherine Nicholas. She married Joseph Mitchell in 1825 and I think that they had three children....Esther (1826) Harriet (1829) and Kitty (Abt 1834).

Joseph then marries Grace Rodda in 1836 and is described as 'Widower'.

In the 1841 Census Esther is apprenticed and is living away from home, Harriet and Kitty are living with father and stepmother Grace

I can find no record of Catherine's death on the OPC site, nor the birth of Kitty and Free BMD doesn't start until after Joseph remarries. 'Kitty' of course may be a family 'nickname' and not the one used for her baptism, however, I can find no appropriate female with the approximate date of birth on the site.

And now for something different.... ;D

Whilst searching came across the following given names .....Kerinhapuck....and Zaphnar. (Brothers aged 12 and 10)...and the following also from the Census.....Jacob Delgado aged 45, Hawker, (born) 'Foreign Parts'

Tony M

[newlyn]

Joseph Mitchell married Catherine Nicholas 12.11.1825 St Buryan
and then married Grace Rodda 29.3.1836 St Buryan.

Kitty Nicholas Mitchell was bap 18.10.1835 St Buryan

[Cornish Terrier]

G'day Tony - try this:-

Kitty Mitchell of Trevorian in Sennen age 30 buried 18th October 1835 at St Buryan

Undoubtedly Catherine Nicholas and Trevorian is where Joseph was living when daughter Margaret was baptised in 1837.

Haven't found a baptism for daughter Kitty as yet.

Oops - yes I have!

Tried my St Buryan records and could not find her so as a last resort just had a look at IGI.

Kitty Nicholas Mitchell d/o Joseph and Kitty bp. 18th October 1835 St Buryan

Using that date I then had another look at my St Buryan records - and they show something slightly different:-

Kitty Nicholls d/o Joseph (labourer) and Kitty MITHELL of Trevorian, Sennen, base bp. 18th October 1835 St Buryan

Most interesting that word - base

BTW - any time I have seen the name Karenhapuck (var.) it has been a female.

CT

[newlyn]

Esther Mitchell bap 26.2.1826 St Buryan

Harriett Mitchell bap 5.7.1829 St Buryan

Possible birth of Catherine Nicholas 1.3.1801 St Buryan
Possible parents John Nicholas and Catherine Harvey married 6.1.1798 St Buryan

[tonymitch]

Thanks CT.....No wonder I couldn't find Kitty's baptism....double checked on the OPC site following your info and found KITTY NICHOLLS MITHELL......Where the hangman Nicholls and Mithell came from I have no idea.....Miss spellings at the source or in transcription?.......Didn't twig that Catherine = Kitty so didn't look for that name.......For me Catherine = Kath.....Kitty = well...Kitty.

Thanks for your input too Newlyn.....I already had Esther and Harriet, but was unsure about Kitty.....anyway if your conjecture that Catherine's mother was Catherine Harvey it makes things very intersting........Joseph's brother, James, marries Lavinia Harvey. (Not traced this family back yet) and also in the 1841 census someone named Nickols is linked with Joseph's nephew Simon, but then the name is crossed out.

Karinhapuk is female??...Thought it was a district of Istanbul

[Cornish Terrier]

Tony - when seeing the name 'Kitty' I have learned to consider several possibilites including Catherine, Christian, Christiana and have seen many times where a lady is Catherine in one record and then later appears as Christian.

Some a baptised as Kitty yet if you check FreeBMD they are registered as Catherine or Christian.

I think there may be a simple transcription error in the record for Kitty so will check it again and get in touch with the OPC.

And Karenhapuck - will I've never been to Istanbul so don't know about that but it has certainly been female name when I have come across it in the records.

Dependent on meaning it is possible it could be used for a male child but I really don't know.

CT

[tonymitch]

CT...I contacted the Cornwall OPC about the possibility of an error in the entry re Catherine and received this reply......

Tony,
The formation of that last but one letter of the 2nd forename is not good
and it could be a or l. I think it's more likely to be an 'a' so I've
changed it to Nicholas but also inserted a note that the forename might be
Nicholls. The surname is definitely MITCHELL so I've changed that.
For your information the mother's forename was originally recorded as Kitty
which was (later?) crossed out and Catherine inserted - so I've left a note
about that too.
Finally, the record incorrectly recorded the child as 'base'. This was also
an error as it should have applied to the next record (John Berryman) and
not this one.
It's all corrected now!
Thanks for pointing out the errors.
Regards,
Bill

Kerinhapuck..... I should have paid more attention at Sunday School.....(Keren-Happuch in Job 42 v 14) was the third daughter of Job and the word means "the horrn or child of beauty".....

I'm still searching for Zaphnar....closest I have is Zaphnath-Paaneah, the name given by Pharaoh to Joseph (One that discovers hidden things)

[Cornish Terrier]

Tony - I actually had a look at the baptism entry this afternoon with the view to entering an Error Report.

But I noticed the job had already been done!

Makes a change for Bill to have someone other than myself sending error reports I think!

When I was at school we never got that deep into the Bible even though I was at a Catholic school.

CT