James Lemin Glasson

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To any interested Glasson / Lemin researcher

I have had recorded for quite some time the marriage of James Lemin Glasson to Mary Trestrail in 1835 in Redruth. I am not all that interested in the family as they are not part of my ancestry so I must have been sent the information back in the dim dark ages when I recorded everything that I saw and forgot about verifying whether or not it was true.

So now I believe that it isn't true so I was wondering if anybody had information in support of that view, or even the opposite. I believe that James Lemin Glasson died when he was 3 years old.

Lannanta

[Sarch]

Hi Lannanta

Didn't find a birth for James Lemin Glasson after 1810 but I was only searching IGI

This is what I did find on a internet search

Burial St Euny Redruth
GLASSON James Lemin GLASSON 24/12/1865 52 also George his son 24/3/1867 17 also Louise daughter 6/3/1870 7
1865 - 52 = born about 1813?

on the IGI I can find a baptism in 19 Jul 1810 for James Lemin Glasson son of James and Elizabeth Glasson and if as you say he died aged 3, this might have been an early birth/sickly child, because James Glasson and Elizabeth Lemin only married 12 May 1810 This would perhaps tie in with naming the next child James Lemin Glasson who was born in 1813? (a lot of perphapses)

Ref for the web
Monumental Inscriptions St Euny Redruth by Suezan James
web.archive.org/web/20070207120538/http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jon_rees/steuny.htm


Regards

Sarch

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Hi Sarch

Yep that makes sense and probably highlights the lack of Redruth baptisms available at this time. I think that it was a common occurrence where children were named after their deceased siblings and that is clearly what happened here. Anyway I guess that if I want to see who James Lemin married then all I need is a birth entry for George or Louisa, but I think that can wait.

Many thanks for that you have done very well.

Lannanta

[Cornish Terrier]

Lannanta - there are a couple of things to support the 'unwanted' entry.

James GLASSON married Mary TRESTRAIL 12th November 1835 at Redruth

Elizabeth Lemin Glasson d/o James Lemin and Mary Glasson bp. 17th September 1837 Redruth (IGI)

In the 1851 Census this family was at Sparnons Gate, Redruth.

James Glasson is recorded as age 36 and his birthplace as PLYMOUTH.

Mary was age 33 and born Redruth and at the time there were five children all born Redruth - Elizabeth age 13, James age 9, John age 7, Richard age 3 and George age 9 months.

In 1861 the family was at Tolgus, Redruth with the addition of Mary age 4 and Helen age 2.

Son John is now John H Glasson.

With the Census taken in March/April in these years I would place the birth of James at 1814.

If nothing else this at least seems to tie together the combined information and may be something for you to work with should you ever decide to take an interest in this particular family.

CT

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CT

James Glasson is recorded as age 36 and his birthplace as PLYMOUTH

I knew that I should have left this alone.

I am at home so this is all from memory, hoping it is factual. In the 1841 census James and Mary are as you say in Redruth, and James was born
"out of Cornwall" (Plymouth as we learn in 1851). Living very close is another older James and Mary with a son Richard, who was also born "out of Cornwall".

It is possible that this is all the same family and the younger James is a brother to Richard. Therefore it could also possibly mean that the younger James and Mary are the son and daughter in law of the older, which suggests that this is not James Lemin Glasson at all?

There was of course a second James and Mary marriage in Redruth, this time in 1837 - I wonder where they fit in?

Lannanta

[Cornish Terrier]

The elder James and Mary were still at North Country, Redruth in 1851.

James age 62 and Mary age 63 - both born Redruth.

Living next door was son Richard Glasson age 33 born Plymouth.
Richard must have married soon after the 1841 Census as he now has wife Elizabeth (age 30 born Wales) and three children (all born Redruth) of whom the eldest was nine-year-old Elizabeth.

Also in this Household was niece Elizabeth Glasson age 11 who was born at Marazion!

Does that bring it any closer to home for you?

You mention that Richard and the younger James might be siblings and it is beginning to look like it.

But what you neglected to offer into the scenario was the possibility that the elder James might have been married more than once.

That aside for the moment - it would appear that this elder James would be the one baptised 1st June 1788 at Redruth son of (you guessed it!) James and Mary!!

James Glasson married Mary Blight 5th February 1787 at Redruth.

'Cousin Elizabeth' could be the daughter of William and Belinda (Clarinda) Glasson.

They appear in the 1841 Census as William and Belinda but when Elizabeth was baptised 3rd November 1839 at St Erth the parents were recorded as William and Clarinda.

I now know this is William Glasson and Belinda Pearce who married June Qtr 1839 Penzance R.D.

Another look at the 1841 Census suggests it is quite likely it was the elder James who married Mary Wedlake at Redruth in 1837.

There are only two couples of James and Mary Glasson in Cornwall.

There is a third James in England with Mary as his wife but they were living in Cumberland, James was born 1801 or only a couple of years before and he was also born in Ireland.

With only the two couples and with both in Redruth in 1841 I think the second marriage is a very likely scenario.

CT

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Hello CT

I apologise as I was at a disadvantage last night when I sent that message, and I am in the same predicament now - I do not have access to my data files here at my home computer due to a technological glitch - if you know what I mean. Fortunately I am very good at backing things up and all my data is on my work machine as well as a back up disk.

I like your thinking about the older James and I will investigate that. However the suggestion that Belinda Pearce may be involved with this family fills me with horror I certainly hope that is not the case because it makes all my earlier work invalid.

Anyway I will ponder further tomorrow.

Lannanta

[Cornish Terrier]

Don't get over-horrified my friend!

I offered the daughter of William and Belinda as a suggestion only based on a fairly quick check of possibilities.

With the St Erth birth/baptism the closest I could find I considered the proximity to St Hilary and, therefore, Marazion.

I need to hunt around further I think.

CT

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CT

I have information at hand that states that the James Glasson who married Mary Wedlake was a widower, a farmer of North Country and the son of James Glasson - therefore he must be, as surmised, the son of James Glasson and Mary Blight. This also means that they are the couple in the 1841 and 1851 census at North Country, albeit Richard who is with them in 1841, and born in Plymouth, has an age given that is unusual.

I can also confirm that the George who was born in 1850 was the son of James Glasson and Mary Trestrail, a farmer of Tolgus in Redruth.

Lannanta